I did all of this because I secretly hate God and want to see Satan rule the world. Thank you.

Wait, I don't do drugs. Nevermind.

Right on about the God/Satan/ruling the world thing though.

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How come {name removed} doesn't like you? I find you really funny :D

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Originally posted by Rhydant:

when are you changing your damned signature?

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Why? Do you want me to put your name back in?

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Originally posted by Dark-Angel99:
How come {name removed} doesn't like you? I find you really funny

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This message has been edited by Beldurin on October 12, 2001 at 03:45 AM

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Originally posted by Crafty Butcher:
i'm right there with you damien_s_lucifer. and i want to say that i'm here for you. you'll need to get hopped up on ludes immediately, and, if your local supplier can manage it, take 10 clarky-caps and about two pint of ether. this should level you out. finish off with a crystal-meth/cheap hash/amaretto bong combo and then simply wait for advanced, drug-induced pyschosis/necrosis to kick in. everything will be better then. and as a bonus, both the god and the devil will have shrunk to more manageable proportions and you should be able to spend an enjoyable afternoon dressing them up as navy seal commandos and then blowing up their bunkers with fireworks. this will also help.

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holy shit!!! funny as hell!!!! where have you been this whole time? more funny!!! i demand more funny!!!

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please feel free to ignore anything i happen to incoherently utter, because, yes, i am a pompus ass.

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We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a saltshaker half-full of cocaine, and a whole galaxy of uppers, downers, laughers, screamers... Also, a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether, and two dozen amyls. Not that we needed all that for the trip, but once you get into a serious drug collection, the tendency is to push it as far as you can. The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge, and I knew we'd get into that rotten stuff pretty soon.

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Originally posted by cr0bar:

We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a saltshaker half-full of cocaine, and a whole galaxy of uppers, downers, laughers, screamers... Also, a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether, and two dozen amyls. Not that we needed all that for the trip, but once you get into a serious drug collection, the tendency is to push it as far as you can. The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge, and I knew we'd get into that rotten stuff pretty soon.

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that was a great movie, heard their was one before it but for some reason i always forget the name of it

This message has been edited by pengu1nn on October 12, 2001 at 01:25 PM

not that I can read anymore, though, not since I took "acid" and went outside and stared at the sun and went blind.

Sometimes I really wish I'd paid more attention in D.A.R.E. I didn't though because I have low self-esteem and hate myself and others. Now I really wish I could stand with all my classmates and sing songs about how great cops are but now I'm a "junkie."

But maybe someday I'll clean up my pathetic life and then I can go around with the D.A.R.E. cops and tell kids about my experiences and make drugs seem even more interesting. I sure hope I survive withdrawal!!!!

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This message has been edited by whiskey@throttle on October 12, 2001 at 06:49 PM

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Originally posted by SHOUTcasterPat:
I don't know why, but for some reason there's this little voice in the back of my head telling me that most of you guys dont even do drugs. Just a thought...

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This message has been edited by damien_s_lucifer on October 12, 2001 at 07:32 PM

Eat it.

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"it was near barsto, near the edge of the desert, when the drugs took control"- fear and loathing

'Nuff said.

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This message has been edited by ASCIIMan on October 24, 2001 at 05:34 PM

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Originally posted by Vainness the Lam0r:
I'm a med student! I'm smarter than all of you! I'm a little bitch who needs his ego popped by a nice fat dick!!!!

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askheaves, do you remember the Med Student that walked off with the chick I was gonna get busy with? The khaki-wearing bastard whose "I only read GQ" moves caused me to ride thru the middle of nowhere in a trunk?

I still have a lot of aggression to work out because of that... and look what we have here! A Med Student lam0r that lives less than 8 hours away from both of us... and he messed with my thread.

Whatever shall we do?

edit : goddamn UBB

This message has been edited by damien_s_lucifer on October 24, 2001 at 08:13 PM

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Originally posted by Vainness:
Go buy a bottle of Robitussin DM at the store,

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Screw this crap, I've had it. I ain't no Mr. Cool.
< =rwa= >

And NOT going to school doesn't automatically mean you don't know anything. I know plenty of people who never went to college who actually know their ass from a hole in the ground, and plenty of PhD's who don't.

I feel like laying the smackdown on Mr. I'm A Med Student At Cornell, and getting an ego boost at his expense...

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Damien S. Lucifer's Numbers Which Describe His Intelligence, As Well As Pamper His Ego :

Mensa IQ test : 175
IQ category : Genius
SAT score (stoned, hung over, 3 hours sleep, no prior studying) : 1400
California Standardized High School Tests - Percentile Achieved
English : 99th
Math : 99th

Q : Do you ever use your test scores to make other people feel inferior?
A : Only when some fucknugget tries to make others feel inferior by throwing down theirs. I only bully the bullies

Q : Is there anything you'd like to tell people about being smart?
A : Yeah. Stupid is as stupid does.

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I am off to smoke some more "crack"...

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This message has been edited by DeadAnztac on October 24, 2001 at 11:46 PM

i need some of that to rub off on me over here.. help me out.

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Don't hold strong opinions about things you don't understand.

I did 4 years of school and it shows. It pales, however, in comparison to people who have more experience than me and school.

And, it wasn't the school that made me a good human being... I had a lot to work with before hand.

I love the sound of a road trip, DSL. :-D Even if we can't find the bastard, we can still get plowed into the ground.

'Nuff said.

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Trial of the Flames, man, we've all been thru it

we pick on lam0rs to weed out the annoying ones who will post stupid / inflamatory shit. One CatKnight around here is enough

I'm not even going to college and I'm confident I can out-think at least 99\% the people on this board!

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If you have a problem with the average IQ around here, don't do things to lower it.

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btw, im not sure if now is a good time to inform the audience that the mister med student is a she.

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Originally posted by damien_s_lucifer:
uh, school DOES make you smart(er), wiley

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the mister med student is a she.

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Heeeeeyyy, baaabby. How YOU doin'?

Intelligence, on the other hand, is a gauge of how a person applies said knowledge to the world. While there may or may not be a limit to how much knowledge any one brain can retain, I think we can all agree that there is a fundamental difference between mere memorization, and total understanding. Knowledge applies to the former, and intelligence to the latter.

However, I do not want to imply that the concept of intelligence is so black and white. There are many other factors to take into account, the primary one being wisdom. Wisdom, a product of life experience and a cultured common sense, is the crucial element of all intelligence. It allows knowledge to be both inferred AND put to use in a real-life scenarios, thus allowing one to both implement their intelligence (in the processing aspect), and push it to its highest capacity (by relating to the world and making corresponding judgments based on a collective consciousness of history, past mistakes, et cetera).

Thus, I think schooling can only give one the gift of knowledge - facts. How this knowledge is applied is based in part by the intelligence, and in part by a perpetual cycle of living and experiencing. Nevertheless, while it is debatable whether there is an unmistakable threshold circumscribing the growth of knowledge and wisdom, there is undoubtedly a definite, innate limit on each individual’s intelligence: that is, processing power of input retained.

Just my humble opinion on the matter...

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First for whiskey.. sorry bout the 's' ill make sure to proofread next time.

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Haha...

Sugar, it was less the 's' and more the 'entire post'.

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Originally posted by TheTaxMan:
Oh yeah?!

I'm not even [b]going to college and I'm confident I can out-think at least 99\% the people on this board!

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school is is just a manifestation of knowledge given, and being able to prove use of that knowledge in certain environments..

there's no doubt that just because someone outside of school is better at using his or her knowledge than someone inside of school.. it all depends on each person's intelligence/wisdom that makes it count.. like good ol' whiskey described above...

i believe the smartest people are the ones who can overcome all obstacles in life with ease, no matter what knowledge is required. the wisdom to handle any situation.

just because i can't hang with some people on what they do best, whether it be Physics, or Mechanics, or an Architec doesn't mean that i'm dumb, just un informed about those things.. and in the same respect, those people without the knowledge i have of Financial situations couldn't hang with me in those situations.. it's all relative.

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edit: silee grammer... and speeling.
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This message has been edited by EvilGenius on October 25, 2001 at 10:36 AM

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Would have been nice to finish early - I had the chance to skip 3 grades back when I was a little one ... but then I would have been so much younger than the rest of my classmates.

True, high school was boring and a bit too easy at times (and it was fun kicking everyone else's ass), but I got to do a lot of other stuff to keep me busy.

Then came college ... par-ty! par-ty! par-ty! (If you're the type to go out sometimes and have fun instead of study study study all the time - the people who do the study study study route will regret it later!) Of course you can get a fake ID ...

Plus you're legal (age) when the hot guy next to you asks you out.

It was nice being a kid

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I love the sound of a road trip, DSL. :-D Even if we can't find the bastard, we can still get plowed into the ground.

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A road trip with us would be a scene straight out of Fear and Loathing, except we'd have laptops. We need to get some toy badges and an expense account.

"There hasn't been any news on the TV for hours. They probably think you're wired into some sort of special cop channel. You should call the front desk and ask them to send up a thousand-watt sensing capacitor and some ice..."

This message has been edited by damien_s_lucifer on October 25, 2001 at 12:46 AM

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Originally posted by Wiley:
...unless you are some kinda slacker genius.

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yep "Hard work might pay off in the future, but laziness pays off now."

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Not equations, questions. The best teacher I ever had was Ms. Chase in 6th grade. I used to hang out with her after class almost every day. We didn't really do any academic-type stuff, we'd just hang out and B.S. We both had Atari 800's at home, and there was one in the classroom, so we played with it a lot programming graphics and music in PILOT.

She was always telling me that I was a bright kid, but there were plenty of those out there. She decided that the rat race wasn't for me; she wanted me to become a damn good scientist. She taught me to ask a lot of questions, follow my interests and instincts, and focus on being able to think on my feet instead of memorizing everything I could. She loved talking about Einstein, and was always saying "don't kill yourself trying to memorize something you can look up. Save your mind for more important things."

Yes, I was a nerd and a teacher's pet... but don't think I sucked up. I got busted more than a few times for spitwads.

And anyway, she won California's Teacher of the Year award in 1998 or '99. Obviously I was pretty damn lucky.

Vainness, now that we know you're a girl, we'll interpret you more accurately

boys get treated more harshly because they are 10 times more likely to have their head jammed up their ass, you know?

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...unless you are some kinda slacker genius.

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yep "Hard work might pay off in the future, but laziness pays off now."

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Not equations, questions. The best teacher I ever had was Ms. Chase in 6th grade. I used to hang out with her after class almost every day. We didn't really do any academic-type stuff, we'd just hang out and B.S. We both had Atari 800's at home, and there was one in the classroom, so we played with it a lot programming graphics and music in PILOT.

She was always telling me that I was a bright kid, but there were plenty of those out there. She decided that the rat race wasn't for me; she wanted me to become a damn good scientist. She taught me to ask a lot of questions, follow my interests and instincts, and focus on being able to think on my feet instead of memorizing everything I could. She loved talking about Einstein, and was always saying "don't kill yourself trying to memorize something you can look up. Save your mind for more important things."

Yes, I was a nerd and a teacher's pet... but don't think I sucked up. I got busted more than a few times for spitwads.

And anyway, she won California's Teacher of the Year award in 1998 or '99. Obviously I was pretty damn lucky.

Vainness, now that we know you're a girl, we'll interpret you more accurately

boys get treated more harshly because they are 10 times more likely to have their head jammed up their ass, you know?

/me saunters off to snort some Cipro...

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but while we'er on it, i might as well throw in my 2 cents:

i dont like school too much. sometimes it just gets boring, and waking up after only 6 hours of sleep isnt very fun. i really dont think that some teachers know what the fuck theyre talking about sometimes. even worse is when you try to correct them and they scold you for being a smart ass. other teachers are good because they dont do everything by the (text)book. thus you are able to exprience something in a way.

i also believe that the only people who gain from public (or even private) education are the people who give a damn. then you get people like Jim. they are smart to begin with, and only attened class on occasion, which makes other people think that the these "smart folk" think theyre better than them.
confused yet?
good.

now can we get back to the "crack"?

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I was afraid i might get the 'oh shes a girl' treatment and almost regretted my post. Even on AIM i come off as an asshole prick, hmm wonder why wonder if i shoulda just kept everyone in the dark..

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Am I right in thinking you're not friends with too many girls?

We'll get back to smoking "crack" in a moment. Please note that quotation marks are required around drug names. After all, that's how they write them in anti-drug propaganda!

From Damien S. Lucifer Preaches It! (Pandemonium Press, San Francisco, 2001) :

For whatever reason, men and women show respect differently. You are a woman. Even if you don't like other women much, your writing will reflect your gender.

If people think you're a guy, you're going to come off as a girly man who thinks he's better than everyone. Nobody takes this kind of guy seriously.

A man throwing around his high test scores or other achievements is probably showing off. A woman doing the same exact thing is probably trying to keep people from thinking of her as "just a dumb girl."

It is, after all, still a very chauvanistic world, and a girl's gotta do what a girl's gotta do. Intelligent men understand that.

If people think you're a man, you'll be seen as someone with your head crammed too far up your ass for your own good. If they know you're a woman you'll be seen as someone who fights for who they are and what they believe in.

Since you're more like the second case than the first, you made a good choice in revealing yourself to be female

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Now, does anyone want to buy a "rock"? I have them for ŭ each, or you can suck my dick and kick you to the curb and we'll call it even. Bruises are included at no extra charge.

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Guys just tend to be kewl around me cuz im not all girlie, and they can discuss their G4's with me and their Linux problems like one of their buddies

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Which means that guys must adore you. That explains why so many girls seem to you to always have ulterior motives. They're acting on their jealousy.

I have the same problems with other men... for whatever reason I have no problem just hanging out with girls, which means they adore me, which makes their boyfriends mad.

What their boyfriends don't realize is that while girls may adore me, none of 'em will go out with me because they think I'm too much of a playa... a playa who hasn't even KISSED a girl in almost two years... ::sigh::

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What their boyfriends don't realize is that while girls may adore me, none of 'em will go out with me because they think I'm too much of a playa... a playa who hasn't even KISSED a girl in almost two years... ::sigh::

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i really cant comment on this mainly because im too damned young and i really dont know much about girls. i just want one. not for sex or anything (my friends find this to be completely strange) but just to be with, you know? a relationship doesnt have to have sex in it for it to be good.

right?

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< =rwa= >

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I have yet to successfully double post. I'm gonna see if I can now. How does one do it?

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it's quite an interesting experience when it first happens. and then you say Ohh! and hit yourself.

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I would argue that school can do more than supply you knowledge. Being that I graduated from an engineering school (in Milwaukee), one thing that I noticed is that they weren't teaching me computers as much as they were teaching me engineering as a discipline. It's very different in that I think completely differently than I did 5 years ago. I apply incoming information totally differently, much more directly to the problem at hand. And my professors (by the school's hiring requirement) were all at least Masters, with at least 5 years industry experience. They did more than shove facts into our heads... they taught us how to teach ourselves each day.

And, I think we love you Vainness. I, too, was one of those thrust into college classes at WAY too young an age. It's almost traumatizing, but luckily I failed out in 10th grade (partially intentionally Vector Algebra is friggin tough). I think you'll find nothing but support here for your person, and dissent toward your opinions. Don't worry... it's healthy. Glad you stumbled in. Not too tough to figure out who your friend is, though

/sarcasm...

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If you have a problem with the average IQ around here, don't do things to lower it.

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a relationship doesn’t have to have sex in it for it to be good.
right?

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Originally posted by askheaves:
I would argue that school can do more than supply you knowledge...one thing that I noticed is [my teachers] weren't teaching me computers as much as they were teaching me engineering as a discipline. It's very different in that I think completely differently than I did 5 years ago. I apply incoming information totally differently, much more directly to the problem at hand.

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Interesting, though I am inclined to argue what you learned still falls into the knowledge category.

It seems to me that all your professors did was teach you a new cognitive method (in other words, the knowledge of how to learn/think in the most efficient manner relative to your field of study). Your intelligence capacity is what enabled you to make use of it. I'm willing to bet there are a handful of folks at your school that weren't as successful as you, and as such, didn't learn to think like an engineer and subsequently failed. Sure, factors like apathy (and vodka) probably play a part in such an example, but I’m certain intelligence limits do as well.

Now, it seems you've grown quite accustomed to using this knowledge: the process of repeatedly applying it under the scope of your intelligence has allowed it to become second nature...in other words, your tenacity and willingness to learn fully adapted the knowledge to work in concert with your intelligence level. Thus, you feel more intelligent because of it…

Well, that's what I'd call wisdom. Ingrained knowledge honed over the course of life experience, optimized to one’s mental capacity. It’s not just something you were told; rather it is a self-evident truth that you have empirically proven valid. You are, quite arguably, smarter because of this…not necessarily because you learned to think differently, but because you were able to put a lesson to use and solidify its practical applicability as best as mentally possible.

It’s like a computer: you can give your box the ‘knowledge’ of how to run Max Payne, but if you have Win3.1 it just ain’t gonna happen. Give it the ‘wisdom’ of Win2k, and it can run the game and fully implement your RAM and processor to utmost capacity…but still, without a 64mb DDR GPU as inherent high-end processing hardware, there’s going to be major limits on its overall performance.

Man, I’m babbling.
(I'm very bored)

This message has been edited by whiskey@throttle on October 26, 2001 at 10:30 AM

Whether it's high school or college, the social learning experience shouldn't be ignored. As easy as many high school curricula are, people who skip out do miss that portion of development.

After a person has matured, then goes back to school, then it's usually academics alone. But pity the people who get there just out of high school and don't get out at all, just study study study. I think Nikita made a rather compelling argument in that respect.

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When 1337 hax0rs start impaling each other with swords and typing code with a hook on one hand, then they can modify the term "pirate."

My (brief and not to be taken TOO literally) definitions are :

knowledge{/b] : raw data; for example facts, figures, and methods

[b]intelligence : the capacity to apply knowledge to a given problem.

wisdom : knowledge of and intelligence in emotional matters

honestly, the three are NOT separate entities. they're properties of the same entity, your mind. It's not always true, but as a general rule, improving one property will increase the others to a degree.

Wisdom is the common exception to that rule, and that's mainly because people see emotion as something distinct from thoughts or simply don't think they need to study or think about the emotional aspects of things.

But yes, wisdom CAN be shared, and you pick up little tidbits of it in college that you probably won't get outside of school. Also, college professors usually take a broader approach to teaching than do vocational schools or an individual learning from a book... perhaps the best thing you learn in college is how to teach yourself.

That said, there are still plenty of people who don't go to college who are brighter across the board than people who DID go. The only thing bad about a bright person who hasn't gone to college is that, all things considered, college is still the *best* place for a smart person to expand their mind, because it's only there that you'll spend a lot of time talking to other smart people from all walks of life who are there for the express purpose of learning.