Topic: Post some good pro-nuclear power arguments
started by: Ozymandias
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eater of the human race!
from the right angle, they look like boobs.
This message has been edited by whiskey@throttle on October 10, 2001 at 08:35 PM
I, personally, am all for nuclear power; it’s safe, cheap, and...uh...the reactors look like boobs. (thanks whiskey)
and that looks like that plant they used the picture of in Naked Gun... 
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Quotation is a serviceable substitute for wit.
- virtually unlimited fuel
- low amound of concentrated, controllable waste
- zero air pollution
- cheapest source of power (minus construction of plant)
This message has been edited by CatKnight on October 10, 2001 at 10:26 PM
That being said, there is a certain type of reactor (no I don't remember the name) that is a unique breeder. It takes in nuclear (to quote Homer, "it's pronounced nuk-u-lur") waste and converts it into usable fuel for the fisson process. It takes in much more waste than it produces. So, we have a nuclear plant that reduces waste as it produces power.
The drawbacks to this system is that it is a breeder reactor. At the time of my study, it wasn't capable of producing weapons grade plutonium, but it seemed that the development of the reactor was headed that way. In debate, breeder reactors=bad because of LDN's (Lesser Developed Nations, double-plus good debate-speak) theoretically using them to get to everyone's favorite impact, nuclear war. It was always difficult to weigh 3 nuclear wars against 5. But I digress.
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Originally posted by @$$h0l3:
to get to everyone's favorite impact, nuclear war.
I once linked the use of toothpaste to nuclear war. Seems you can't win a debate when your disadvantages are lost rights or unhappy people.
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Originally posted by CatKnight:
I highly doubt you could build a firearm with just a hunk of steel, metal working tools, and gunpowder.
Sure you could. Assuming that hunk of steel is a capped-off tube. Only thing else you'd need is a fuse and some nails.
There's always a crude alternative.
scientist: yeah it'll be a real pain to start the reaction up again seeing as it'll stop instantly the second critical density is lost.
dumbass protestor: yeah but...erm...what if...oh i'm gonna go shoot myself in the head
Scientists: no dont do that you'll cause more pollution than our reactor does and then you'll be even more of a hypocrite
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simultaneity is not absolute. So just because you think i'm wrong, from my frame of reference i'm right!
1. Less background radiation then coal (this is fact)
2. No thick black smoke
3. No Highly acidic rain (all rain is some what acidic)
4. Virtually endless fuel source
5. Reusable to a point where the waste would be close to nil.
6. No reliance on foreign powers for production of it other than Canada
7. American and Western European reactors use water to cool as opposed to soviet designs that used liquid graphite that can in some rare occasions catch fire (Chernobyl)
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Originally posted by SHOUTcasterPat:
I know, there needs to be a way to protect against the Homer Simpsons of nuclear plants.
Pebble-bed technology: apparently, it's not only more efficient than our current methods, but it's ::dun dun dun:: absolutely -immune- to meltdown. Zero chance. Not possible by the laws of physics. It was in PopSci a few months ago...I'd give a link, but for some reason the geniuses in charge of their website took away all the old archived articles...
Oh, and about the radioactive waste...it's being taken out of the earth, used, and put back...deeper and less radioactive. Who could complain about that?
And that is definately not nothing.
I don't know what fucked up version of PopSci you were reading, but with pebble bed technology, it greatly reduces the risks of a meltdown. Please, please, PLEASE don't talk:
- Out of your ass
- Out of information gathered from one source
- Especially if that ONE source is PopSci
Thank you UBB, good night!
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Don't worry about the world ending today... It's already tomorrow in Australia. Unless you're in Australia... (then start worrying)
Laf, you'll never need more than 64K of ram!
I forgot CK, what happens when air and graphite come into contact with each other again?
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I forgot CK, what happens when air and graphite come into contact with each other again?
um...nothing?
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Originally posted by CatKnight:
actually miNus he was correct. there is no way for a pebble bed reactor to melt down.
Is that a CHALLANGE?
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When my flying days are over, and my death has come to pass
I hope they bury me upside down, so the whole damn world can kiss my ass
just as long as CK is running the plant. i think everyone agrees on that.
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Screw this crap, I've had it. I ain't no Mr. Cool.
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Originally posted by CatKnight:
there is no way for a pebble bed reactor to melt down.
What if you hit it with a nuclear bomb?!?!? THEN WHAT!?!?!
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Originally posted by CatKnight:
I'll take that as a compliment of my engineering skills, rather then a hope that I die of radiation poisoning.
no, not really. i was implying that you would probobly cause a meltdown by thinking its a good idea to cool down the reactor by pooring water on it by hand, with small buckets
heh
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Screw this crap, I've had it. I ain't no Mr. Cool.
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I'm not so sure about your "last resort" 
OFF WITH HIS BALLS!
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"Take a cable and simulate a sex act on each end. Press some combonation of play and record buttons." - askheaves
waht the fuck did i do to you?
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Screw this crap, I've had it. I ain't no Mr. Cool.
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Originally posted by Rhydant:
what the hell, minus? why dont you like me now?
What? When did I like you?
Lol, JK. Calm down dude. I'm suprised you didn't see through my thin veil of sarcasm. I figured you would have caught on when I ended all the posts I knew you would read with "OFF WITH HIS BALLS!"
But anyway... /me hands Rhydant a chill pill.
Brrrrr.
/me gives myself mad props
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"Computer games don't affect kids, I mean if Pac Man affected us as kids, we'd all run around in a darkened room munching pills and listening to repetitive music." - Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc. 1989
sorry dude
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This is the home of Pokerface,
eater of the human race!
heh
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Screw this crap, I've had it. I ain't no Mr. Cool.
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well duh! a comet could hit the earth tommorow a volcano could errupt in london but its not as if it WILL. and these people act as if we've just completely ignored any risks by using examples where things have gone wrong in the past ignoring the 99\% of times where it HASNT gone wrong. fucknuts!
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simultaneity is not absolute. So just because you think i'm wrong, from my frame of reference i'm right!
Sure because of a draught the hydro lakes were too low and we had to save 10\% of electricity so the winter wouldn't be too much of a strain on the lakes. BUT, it just makes me feel safe in the knowledge that we don't have any nuclear things here. Except for mircowaves. I like mircowaves.
kixzor-why do you have this notion that nuclear power is evil and dangerous? I'm totally lost.
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Veistran
-The people opposed to nukes are the ones that think Usama Bin Laden could build a suitcase nuke in his cave.
and it probably does, although I don't know what the specific reason is.
Fission = splitting U-235 or P-239 to create heat
Magnetic Confinement Fusion = spinning super-heated plasma of tritium and duterium until they fuse and create more heat.
Intertial Confinement Fusion = uses lasers to compress matter until it fuses
there are around 400 fission reactors online world wide. some of the waste they produce is highly radioactive and will remain so for about 1000 years. Right now, they store the highest level waste in pools at the power plant. Once it 'cools down' some amount, they move it to dry storage. There are plans to store high level waste at Yucca Mountain, NV, but they have not been approved yet.
Currently, fusion power (either kind) is not feasible as the technology has not been developed enough yet.
I think now that we have cured erectile dysfunction our scientist can once again train their collective minds on developing cheap clean power. This is unless of course something more important comes up, like basketball shoes that make you jump higher or toothbrushes with the toothpaste right there in the handle ...genius I tell you. I think our biggest problem is that there are no physicist groupies. No incentive to actually make the thing work.
At least the info in the Detonate forums is now accurate though, I was worried that people would start actually bury radioactive waste in New Mexico and not Nevada ...what an a$$ I would feel like then.
Now get to work brainiacs ...I need power ...more POWER!
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Originally posted by kixzor2:
Except for mircowaves. I like mircowaves.
doesnt everyone?
btw, since when are microwaves nuclear powered? hell, i want one of those. 2 minutes to cook hot pockets is way to long. should be .25 nano-seconds!
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Screw this crap, I've had it. I ain't no Mr. Cool.
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