Topic: dogporkisyum
started by: Dysorderia
Posted by Dysorderia on Apr. 20 2002,04:24
< In case you haven't already seen it.... >
Posted by incubus on Apr. 20 2002,04:41
Seems like random rantage to me. Not quite ban material, to be honest I've not met anyone here that justifies being banned.
Posted by Uberkommando on Apr. 20 2002,04:42
He's entitled to his opinions. He's also entitled to getting his ass flamed off.Hmm... to whom should we reward the honors?
Posted by editor on Apr. 20 2002,04:45
lesse, um, Kuru comes to mind for the first blast, BF will passionately drill holes thru the guy's head, and then DSL can quietly, calmly undermine every single sentence that the turd writes...I for one, would like dogpork to return.
/me rubs hands together
Posted by Dysorderia on Apr. 20 2002,05:29
| Quote (editor @ 19 April 2002,23:45) |
| I for one, would like dogpork to return. |
why?
Posted by editor on Apr. 20 2002,05:30
Is it not patently obvious I wish to enjoy his torment?
Posted by CatKnight on Apr. 20 2002,06:44
just delete that post dont mess with his account
Posted by damien_s_lucifer on Apr. 20 2002,07:21
Oops! I accidentally deleted his post. My bad. So sorry.This would normally be out of line for an admin, but since his first post was "poll only" I figurered he didn't really count as a Detnet member...
Posted by BlackFlag on Apr. 20 2002,09:16
bleh, shoulda left it. Detnet needs some fresh objects of hate.
Posted by Dysorderia on Apr. 20 2002,16:09
| Quote (BlackFlag @ 20 April 2002,04:16) |
| bleh, shoulda left it. Detnet needs some fresh objects of hate. |
no, we have you and ck for that
Posted by Dysorderia on Apr. 20 2002,16:12
| Quote (damien_s_lucifer @ 20 April 2002,02:21) |
| Oops! I accidentally deleted his post. My bad. So sorry. This would normally be out of line for an admin, but since his first post was "poll only" I figurered he didn't really count as a Detnet member... |
if you have deleted his post, why leave an empty shell of a poll there?
Posted by TonyDennis on Apr. 20 2002,18:51
Who appointed you the thought police? ... editor did, I guess.Censorship still sucks, though. I didn't even get to see his controversial post!
edit: Oh, and god damnit, IkonBoard, I have not voted in this poll!
Posted by Bozeman on Apr. 20 2002,18:52
Will somebody please tell me just what the hell is going on around here?
Posted by editor on Apr. 20 2002,19:05
Dammit Mr DSL, this would be your job!Some punk posted a poll on hating fat people, it was hateful and violent and silly too.
Trust me, as your Posting Whore, you didn't miss much.
The topic was poll only, so I started a topic on placing flames for the punk.
that is all
Posted by damien_s_lucifer on Apr. 20 2002,19:38
| Quote (TonyDennis @ 20 April 2002,10:51) |
| Who appointed you the thought police? ... editor did, I guess. |
no thought police here. not only was this moron's first post written at a twelve year old level, he made it "poll only." he left us no option to flame him. so i vaporized his post instead.
dumb n00bies who create threads that no one can reply to are the exception to the "don't mess with other people's posts or profiles unless the FBI is knocking on your door" rule.
his account is still intact. he is welcome to complain to me all he wants.
Posted by Wiley on Apr. 20 2002,21:01
Damnit ...I missed it.Oh well, I trust DSL's judgment and if there was no place to respond then it's kind of a weak flame-bait post at any rate.
Posted by TonyDennis on Apr. 21 2002,01:35
It would have been more productive had you disabled the "poll only" option on his post, or, failing that, recreated the thread without said option.
Posted by damien_s_lucifer on Apr. 21 2002,05:18
good point./me files away TonyDennis' suggestion for the future...
Posted by Rhydant on Apr. 21 2002,08:26
uhm.... what did he say in his post?
Posted by CatKnight on Apr. 21 2002,08:54
fatty fat fat fat fatty fat fat fatthats about it
Posted by Bozeman on Apr. 21 2002,14:50
Milhouse: "Some of the bullies are planning to push you in the mud, and the girls are calling you 'fatty fat fat fat,' but no one's trying to kill you."Bart: "That's a relief."
*Bart gets pushed into mud*
Girls: "Fatty fat fat fat!"
Bart: "Ahhhhhh...."
Posted by damien_s_lucifer on Apr. 22 2002,09:30
The topic was poll only, and its name was "fat Fat head, do you hate fat people?"I must admit it was kinda fun vaporizing a stupid n00bie post... that was for the old skool crew
Posted by Wiley on Apr. 22 2002,15:21
I never read the offending post, but I see it was a rant against fat people so what the hell, I'll weigh in with my comments since I just had a near fat experience this morning.I rode up on the elevator with a guy this morning who had to be well into the 400s. I was suprised he could walk. I don't hate fat people as much as not understand how they could do that to themselves? I'm a pretty slim guy so I can't really relate to putting on weight and my 95lbs chix0r tears through Haggen Daz without gaining an ounce. I'm in agreement that certain people have a pre-disposition to put on the pounds, but knowing that why would you let yourself get so far out of check? I mean at 300lbs don't you start thinking that you should watch the intake? I wonder how soon it will be before the guy I rode the elevator with will be on the news because paramedics had to tear down a wall and come in with a crane to get him out of his house.
Flame if you must, but I seriously don't get it. If I couldn't see my feet I'd get my tubby ass to a gym.
Posted by kuru on Apr. 22 2002,17:56
I am not a 95 lb chick. Never will be. I would starve to death long before the point that I dropped below 100 lbs.And as for 'tearing through Haagen-Daas', well, I could if I wanted to. However, four ounces of ice cream for me equate to a pound of extra weight. My metabolism is slow, and there's nothing I could do (short of a thyroid removal and Synthroid for the rest of my life) to change that rate.
So, Wiley, from someone who will never be Calista Flockhart thin, don't you think if I could be a size 0 by just working out I would be? Or do you think that because I'm predisposed to weigh more than 100 lbs I should never touch Haagen-Daas because I'll 'get out of hand'?
Oh but it's different when someone weighs 300 lbs, is it? How the hell do you know they don't have a very serious medical condition that causes them to gain so much weight? People with underactive thyroids can often gain a couple hundred pounds before the problem is discovered, if ever.
But hey, just assume shit about their life because of what size pants they wear. Sure.
Posted by Wiley on Apr. 22 2002,18:31
| Quote (kuru @ 22 April 2002,09:56) |
| Oh but it's different when someone weighs 300 lbs, is it? How the hell do you know they don't have a very serious medical condition that causes them to gain so much weight? |
Damn straight! If I had some medical condition that put me over the 300 lbs mark then rest assured I would discover just what the hell is wrong before I hit 400. And fast or slow metabolism exercise burns calories ...and the fat has got to come from something, it doesn't just appear outta thin air. Like I said earlier, some people have a genetic predisposition to gain weight. That is something they need to get control over. If I was allergic to grass I would get medication or not go outside, I wouldn't spend days itching of a rash and telling people it was all because of a medical condition I had. Jesus Christ, take some responsibility if you are morbidly obese. I don't hate fat people, I just think they are not concerned about their appearance so I would tend not to date them and generally treat them as people who don't care about their appearance. This falls into my feelings of tattoos, piercings and un-natural hair colors. If you don't want to fit into societal norms, then don't bitch that society doesn't accept you.
Posted by kuru on Apr. 22 2002,18:56
Society accepts me just fine. I have a job, I'm not treated like a leper by society in general. There are, however, a few assholes in the world who think it's their business what I weigh and will chastise me for not being a size 0 and daring to eat dessert when I go out to dinner.
Thankfully that's not how the guy friend I went to dinner with on Friday acts, and thankfully he's not so hung on chicks being so thin their ribs show that he would've told me I am a slob who cares nothing for her appearance when I allowed myself the rare indulgence of a nice big steak.
As for 'scratching a rash for months', well, I do know something about that. And it is a medical condition. And it is being treated by doctors. And you know what? It can't be cured. I'm going to have a medical condition for the rest of my life, an immune system disorder, that will sometimes be under control and sometimes not.
For 10 months I fought for my life while my immune system raged against my skin, my throat, my eyes, my bronchial tubes and my lungs. And I had a puffy red itchy rash that would not go away.
And someone that we all know wasn't such an asshole as to just assume that this was something I chose to ignore, but he took the time to understand that there was nothing that I or my team of doctors could do to fix it.
So back the hell off of people who have medical conditions that even with medication will never be cured and can sometimes, rarely, be controlled.
Posted by damien_s_lucifer on Apr. 22 2002,21:57
I've dated girls up to size 14-16, 180lbs, and had no problem with it. The girl I'm interested in now can also wolf down a quart of Haagen-Daz and not gain an ounce, but that's not why I'm interested in her. Honestly, when I look at her and imagine her twenty pounds heavier I start to drool...but yes, when you cross 200 pounds (for a typical woman) or 250-300 (for a typical man)... when your rolls have rolls... go to a doctor ffs. Blech.
Posted by veistran on Apr. 22 2002,22:00
So who's next for wiley to rail on paranoid schizophrenic's for not locking themselves up in padded rooms because they don't want to take medication that turns them into zombies?
Posted by Wiley on Apr. 22 2002,22:28
| Quote (veistran @ 22 April 2002,14:00) |
| So who's next for wiley to rail on paranoid schizophrenic's for not locking themselves up in padded rooms because they don't want to take medication that turns them into zombies? |
Um ...yeah. And I suppose when they kill their five kids and plead insanity we should all feel really bad for their horrible condition and let them back out into the world in six months. I think not.
But let's finish this one first.
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| Society accepts me just fine. I have a job; I'm not treated like a leper by society in general. |
I think the key phrase here is in general. The problem with societal norms is that there are so many different pockets of acceptance. Your un-natural hair colors may be accepted in your social and business circles, but they would not be in mine. Weight also would also have the varying level of acceptance depending on time and place. A heavy sumo wrestler in Japan is often on a more elevated social level then his trimmer counterpart. Samoan culture also tends to be more accepting of a heavier physic build then is the case with other cultures in other parts of the world. Like everything else there is a broad range of tolerance. My disapproval comes about by people who seem to go well outside the bounds of any societal norm and then act like the problem is with society and they are completely innocent of provoking the majority. This is the case in piercings, tattoos, hair color, weight and about a million other things that can just go too far. I have no problem with people being a bit heavy or a bit more muscular if it’s their preference, but to let yourself go physically until you are morbidly obese I find unacceptable. I see it as just another facet of rebelling by “body modification”.
This guy may be a great guy and really smart, but would you hire him to watch your kids?
Why not? Just because of his appearance? The truth is that we are all judgmental of other people. You have to base your perception of them as a person by their outward appearance. This guy I figure has no cares about following cultural norms or what will happen to him as a result of him defying these norms. If questioned whether or not this individual would harm my kids while I was out I would have to reply that I really wouldn’t put anything over a person that is so outside the realm of common thinking. Extreme obesity is in my opinion another act of social defiance.
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| …will chastise me for not being a size 0 and daring to eat dessert when I go out to dinner. |
I don’t care what anybody eats, but if I were pushing 400 lbs I hope to god that I would skip the cheesecake.
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| As for 'scratching a rash for months', well, I do know something about that. And it is a medical condition. And it is being treated by doctors. And you know what? It can't be cured. I'm going to have a medical condition for the rest of my life, an immune system disorder, that will sometimes be under control and sometimes not. |
I think you missed my point here. I was saying that if you are going to put blame on a medical condition then you owe it to yourself to seek medical attention. Many of the disorders that contribute to obesity can be controlled, but you have to make an effort to get help.
Posted by RadioActive on Apr. 22 2002,22:57
I don't care is people are fat, as long as they don't wear tight closing. that's a little disturbing. but as long as people at least attempt to help themselves it's all good. see, no matter how slow your metabolism is or what kind of disorder you have you can always find time to excercise and keep yourself in some kind of shape. now when you start getting to the point of Ally McBeal (don't remeber the acresses name) that's a bit scary too. it's much healthier being fat then anarexic.200 pounds it\s still a reasonable weight
once u start getting over that it's time to start thinking about taking proper care of yourself. and i don't mean dieting as much, i am talkng more about working out and such. there are always ways to lose weight that don't compromise one's health, it's just a matter of determination and being able to get yourself together, organized and do something about it.
Posted by damien_s_lucifer on Apr. 22 2002,23:38
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| My disapproval comes about by people who seem to go well outside the bounds of any societal norm and then act like the problem is with society and they are completely innocent of provoking the majority. |
You're dead on with this. Don't know about the rest of your post, since I'm fond of rebellion... but if you weigh 400 pounds and can barely move around because you don't take care of yourself, don't expect any sympathy from me. And if you're in my house and you break something you sit on, I will kick your fat ass... it's happened before. I got shunned by my peers for a couple weeks for it, but it was worth it. The stupid bitch *knows* she's huge. She sat on one of my favorite chairs, and when it broke she blamed... you got it, the chair. Christ, I'm generally compassionate, but I have to draw the line at stupid people who break my shit because they're too negligent/stupid/lazy/proud to realize that they should probably sit on the couch instead.
Posted by TheTaxMan on Apr. 23 2002,00:53
| Quote (RadioActive @ 22 April 2002,14:57) |
| it's much healthier being fat then anarexic. |
Just becasue someone is thin doesn't mean they're anorexic. That pisses me off. Just because I weigh 135 at 6'1" doesn't mean I have bad eating habits or a psychological condition. I also happen to be in damn good shape, and was in even better shape when I weighed 120 and was 5'11".
It's much more socially exceptable to be thin than thick as well, so there's no argument there either.
/soapbox
Posted by veistran on Apr. 23 2002,01:36
| Quote (Wiley @ 22 April 2002,16:28) | ||
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Um ...yeah. And I suppose when they kill their five kids and plead insanity we should all feel really bad for their horrible condition and let them back out into the world in six months. I think not. But let's finish this one first. |
You're reading way too much into what I said. If they do something that hurts someone other than themselves I'm all for them getting whatever punishment is to be metered out to them, sane or not.
Posted by TonyDennis on Apr. 25 2002,01:35
Hah, I made the mistake of joining this type of conversation once...
Posted by Wiley on Apr. 25 2002,15:48
Just don't get me started on Darwinian theory. The rights of the individual must sometimes be overlooked for the betterment of the majority. If you have a few weak gazelles in a heard and you are preyed upon by some mountain cat then you have to hope the cat takes down a few of the weakest members. This improves the overall strength and speed of the heard. Since every group is only as strong as it's weakest member you need to be sure that your strongest survive (and breed) and your weak die off and don't produce offspring of lesser capacity then the heard as a whole.In short ...life isn't fair, it's like one big game of dodge-ball.