Topic: Sudden shift in focus
started by: Beldurin
Posted by Beldurin on Apr. 12 2002,06:09
I must say I'm somewhat surprised by the recent rash of intellectualism...we went straight from arguing about kuru's boobs to having in-depth discussions about middle eastern politics and the merits of the American Welfare sysem.I'm impressed, but I come here to unwind after a hard day of thinking. Thank Yaweh that BF is here to keep the IQ factor of the discussions down.
Ok, I'm drunk...I'm going to bed.
P.S. How many posts until Dys flames me for making a "wasteful thread?"
Posted by Dysorderia on Apr. 12 2002,06:14
none, since this topic actually has a point to it.
Posted by Beldurin on Apr. 12 2002,06:16
| Quote (Dysorderia @ 12 April 2002,00:14) |
| none, since this topic actually has a point to it. |
you just can't let me have any fun, can you?
Posted by Dysorderia on Apr. 12 2002,06:18
| Quote (Beldurin @ 12 April 2002,01:16) | ||
you just can't let me have any fun, can you? |
just call me 'mr. killjoy' 
Posted by kai on Apr. 12 2002,09:15
while we're drunk. i just foudn out my friend has leukemia. waht do i do? he's known. and has come to terms. i feel guilty. should i give him stuff. that seems worthless. bah.
Posted by kuru on Apr. 12 2002,14:20
Just keep being his friend.A life threatening illness, once you come to terms with having it, can be a kind of odd thing. Sometimes you just want to have at least one friend who doesn't treat you like a medical freak. Somebody who acts like you're still the same person, the same friend, who acts like you're living not like you're dying.
Course, that's just me. But if I were your friend who has leukemia, I'd want you to just keep being my friend. To be the reassurance of normalcy.
Posted by BlackFlag on Apr. 12 2002,14:54
a friend of mine recently found out she has hepetitus C (the incurable variant)..... she's probably got 10-15 years to live, less if she doesn't keep a handle on her drug addiction (herion use fucks up your immune system bad.)don't think of them as a person waiting to die, otherwise your thoughts may rub off on them. they're still a person, and still your friend.
Don't bring up the subject; only talk about it if they bring it up..... but at the same time, don't walk on eggshells around them. no matter how subtle you think you are, they will notice and be uncomfortable.
Posted by TheTaxMan on Apr. 12 2002,15:48
I point you all < here > for something which everyone seems to -say- they're going to do, but never actually does.
Posted by Beldurin on Apr. 12 2002,18:59
I'm with kuru, he was your friend before you knew, so the only thing that's changed is that you might not have as long to be his friend now, so just don't take him for granted.Trust me, if you do, you'll miss him even more when he finally does have to leave. As for giving him stuff, figure out what he wants. Some people want stuff, some people want pity, some people want to be treated normally, some to be left alone. You have to find out what his wishes are, and honor them. You have my sympathy, I know where you're coming from.
Posted by Necromancer on Apr. 13 2002,00:32
speaking of destruction of the immune system< http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_1906000/1906999.stm >
i know this may interest some people around here but i won't mention names. just thought it might interest them.
Posted by Uberkommando on Apr. 13 2002,04:28
All this stuff hits close to home. My mom has MS, which is also incurable. I've gotten used to it over the past 7 years, and treat like a normal mom, albeit she can't walk as well.
Posted by kuru on Apr. 13 2002,05:21
When I was really sick and the potential was that I would croak in short order, I found it was the 'walking on eggshells' thing that pissed me off.Nobody who knew about it would ever bring up the subject or ask how I was doing. Nobody ever asked if the doctors found any promising treatment or anything because everyone was afraid they would offend me or make me cry or something.
At the height of it, the worst part was that neither I nor any of my doctors had any clue what was actually making my immune system eat my own body alive, so treatment options were really limited. They thought it was lupus for a good long time, and a pile of inconclusive test results didn't help them arrive at the eventual diagnosis that basically what happened is that some medicine I was on for a previous illness triggered a very bizarre reaction in my immune system: it is allergic to me. Once that was figured out, so was a way to treat it, and as long as the 'allergy' never gets more severe than the meds can handle, I'll have a normal life span.
I just wish my friends (with a notable exception) hadn't been too afraid of upsetting me to actually ask me how the hell I was doing.
Posted by BlackFlag on Apr. 14 2002,06:22
im, curious....will you eventually build up a tollerance to yourself, or will you have to be on medication forever?
Posted by kuru on Apr. 14 2002,16:16
It's possible that my immune system will eventually shift down out of hyperdrive.Possible in the same sense that the moon could be made out of green cheese.
The general idea is that I have to stay on meds for the rest of my life.