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Topic: syf0n history, by chase
started by: RenegadeSnark

Posted by RenegadeSnark on Dec. 31 2001,06:04

Thought I could shed some light on the matter.

cr0bar was originally not much of a forums participant. He would poke his head in, and usually read most of what happened in the forums, but seeing a post from him was sort of a rare thing. He also chose not to interfere with the forums - did basically no moderation, and just responded passively to some requests for new forums, etc.

as far as how syf0n was seen in anyone else's eyes, well, i can't honestly say. syf0n originally decided he wanted to start the site bastardize.net. this was in the day when cr0bar hung out in #detnet, and i did as well. syf0n wanted help and whatnot, and cr0bar wasn't entirely forthcoming (i cannot blame him, he didn't mean to be an ass but he doesn't have time to start a website for someone else).

syf0n did all kinds of things i thought were funky... like suggesting that detnet be a site "under" bastardize, and making bastardize a site that had very little content itself and just linked to detonate... saying "bastardize is a member of the detonate network", etc. cr0bar really didn't mind... but he found syf0n to be annoying, and didn't particularly enjoy talking to him.

cr0bar and i started developing bithive. it was highly secret. syf0n somehow got ahold of a piece of concept art (probably porn_dealer's fault) and was asking interface questions... that led me to be a bit suspicious. syf0n weaved this big tale of how he hacked jason and what not... i, being a very close friend of jason, was obliged to tell him. cr0bar again had a reason not to talk to syf0n.

syf0n somehow got ahold of a picture of cr0bar from his youth, and with a bit of photoshop cranked out a slightly offensive picture that featured jason as a "homeless" child. syf0n also decided to start making fun of jason for smoking weed (which i still think is the dumbest thing ever... i smoke weed too, it's our damn business what we do).

i went to new orleans on a trip to see a relative get married, and happen to spend the night out cruising around with syf0n and his friends. don't get me wrong, syf0n is my friend, and i like to think that he is mine. we rode around in his jeep and whatnot... went to blockbuster with some of his friends and went looking for a movie.

we happened to come across a case to some dumb movie with some asian guy surfing, and syf0n laughed about how that looked like jason. so i get back to plano, and syf0n decides to take that movie cover and make another mildly insulting image.

cr0bar gets pissed and bans syf0n from the forums.

months go by where syf0n goes through all kinds of phases.

now here we are. let me set the record straight.

i am a very, very good friend of jason meinzer aka cr0bar. sometimes we talk on the phone on a nightly basis for hours at a time. i've been in his dorm room, bought him a pack of turkish golds after we walked up to safeway. jason meinzer is a certified badass. i would semi-cautiously venture that jason is perhaps my best friend, sad as it may be that he is on the other side of the states.

i consider richard aka syf0n to be a good person. he has even been graphic designer for boomgames for a while. the real "richard thompson" is a lot like me in some ways, and he's a pretty funny/nice guy. "syf0n", the internet persona, is very different than richard thompson. i will say publicly that i think richard has his head in the clouds a bit, but i don't mean that to be offensive at all. syf0n is also a good friend of mine. i have seen him in person, even left a bag of wendys rubbish on his friend's front porch in a moment of impromptu humor.

cr0bar doesn't exactly hate syf0n's guts, but he isn't bursting with love either.

oh, and i should mention that i am also friends with porn_dealer aka david, although i have never seen him in person. perhaps i will some day.

Posted by porn_dealer on Dec. 31 2001,06:23

Being, dare I say, good friends with Richard, cr0bar, and Chase, I agree with what Chase has said regarding Richard. He might be a little full of himself at times, and causing trouble seems to be his second job, but at heart he's a nice guy, and having talked to him for countless hours on the phone for the past year, and on AIM, e-mail, etc., I don't understand why people (other than cr0bar of course) are pissed off at him. Then again, he never flamed me, but flaming is a big part of these forums, and he just made it interesting. I'd hate to see the members of the detnet forums duke it out on Springer, cause there wouldn't be enough damn chairs to throw.

Posted by DeadAnztac on Dec. 31 2001,07:32

I've had the pleasure of talking to Richard, he seems like a pretty nice guy to me personally. As for my previous flaming of him? Well, let's say I was flaming his persona

Oh, yes and I'm not good friends with any of these people, unfortunatly never talked with Jason, Chase, or porn_dealer, but I've been around through most of that, just... you know... 14...

...what a waste of two years of my life this place is...

Posted by CatKnight on Dec. 31 2001,18:09

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bought him a pack of turkish golds

cr0bar knows his tobaccy

Posted by richard on Dec. 31 2001,18:19

Quote (RenegadeSnark @ Dec. 31 2001,01:04)

i get the story right every damn time.

No. No, you don't, and I think this whole topic is a load of faggotry -- you've got a lot of your details wrong.

And you forgot to mention who gave the "Homeless Jason" picture to Jason. I didn't show it anyone but you (David hadn't even seen it at that point, although he was in on the idea to make it), and 4 hours later he gets onine and flames the fuck out of me, blocks me from AIM, and bans me from the forums. Wow, I wonder how he got that picture, which I gave to no one else but you! I remember you feeding me some line about how he picked it up off your VPN. That's a load of crap too; I also remember asking you not to show it to him, because I didn't want it to be distributed. It was supposed to remain between myself and a few other people. I guess sharing it with you was a bad idea.

Yeah, and when you and Rob and Nick and I were in Blockbuster, and we saw that "Johnny Tsunami" shit...something else that David and I collaborated on. David got me the enormous joint picture. And came up with the idea to put the weed leaf over the "I". Also, while we're on the subject of tact and grace, let's not forget how you were chucking ice cubes from that Wendy's we stopped by directly at other moving vehicles. Or how you left your Wendy's rubbish on the front step of my best friends' house, which then became covered in ants -- causing them to ban you from their house, and causing me a great deal of embarassment in front of them and their parents.

Also, for the record, I never wanted or told Jason to run his ste "under" mine. That's a load of crap, and I'm wondering where the hell it came from.

The bottom line is that I've been nothing but nice to you, Chase, and I consider topics like this, as well as some of the stuff you've done in the past, to be a complete stab in the back.

Call me when you get the chance, we might need to talk...if you actually value me as a friend.

Posted by Rhydant on Dec. 31 2001,18:40

hrmmm... if syf0n never existed, this forum would be a much happier place.

thc levels are up
and prices are down
bwuahahahaaa... errr... sorry.

Posted by incubus on Dec. 31 2001,23:49

Hmm. Gotta disagree there. I wouldn't like to make many people not exist, they enrich your life, give you experiences, blah de blah. While syf0n ain't everyones favourite person, I think that everyone should get a second chance. And if Chase and Richard got issues, they should smoke a blunt and make up. Sorry did I say smoke a blunt I meant drink a beer.

There's nobody I can outright say I disrespect on the forums; everyone here has something to give to everyone else. We just all need to be nice to each other.

Screw that, fuck you all!

Happy new year everyone!

Mike

Posted by Dark Knight Bob on Jan. 01 2002,00:40

i just wanted to fit in

Posted by aventari on Jan. 01 2002,02:49

dkb

I respect cr0 for his webmastering/programming and graphic design skills. and his straight up, no politics attitude. Although his ego is a bit big.
I respect Chase for his programming skills
I think syphon needs to find a personality and stick with it.
BUT if he didn't rip off all of his art on his site (I remember him plagerizing SA a few months ago...) then I respect his graphic design skills.

mind you, this is all from impressions gleaned from the internet, i've never met anyone in real life. Not even Rhydant, though he lives 15 mins away.

peace

Posted by Spydir on Jan. 01 2002,23:54

what the hell is wrong with throwing things from a moving vehicle at other moving vehicles? Last night, after our visit to hooters for new years (the place is great, but I felt like such a sexist...), me and some friends stopped by blockbuster to pick up GTA3 (holy shit this game kicks ass), and we stole all the AOL cd's at the counter. On our way to one of the guy's houses, we were throwing them at road signs, cars, trees, etc... it was awsome.

Posted by Dark Knight Bob on Jan. 02 2002,00:02

you fool thats what aol WANTS you to do! its un untapped market that they're trying to reach!

Posted by pengu1nn on Jan. 02 2002,22:03

Quote (Spydir @ Jan. 01 2002,23:54)

that shit is not fucking cool. what if you cracked someones windshield freaking them out, they swerve and hit a bus full of ppl, and everyone dies? or you hit bubba's hotrod and he shoots your ass?

it's not so funny when you've almost died because of shit in the road.

why pollute the earth with aol? thats worse than mcdonalds bags everywhere. bleh. their just so ugly. the microwave is the only way to help them

damn 10 min till i can go home

Posted by Spydir on Jan. 02 2002,22:10

we weren't throwing them at cars so they'd break the windsheild. were were throwing them at cars so they'd hit the door. and if it freaked someone out... to fucking bad. it was new years eve, we were all fucked up.

and as for polluting the world with aol.. we wrote "DON'T INSTALL ME" on all the cd's first

Posted by Vulu on Jan. 03 2002,01:05

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Agreed.

[j]brousseau
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Double Post: oops, sorry. Didn't know I had to Log In to post as my Handle.

Posted by incubus on Jan. 03 2002,04:04

Quote (Vulu @ Jan. 03 2002,01:05)

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Agreed.

[j]brousseau
< http://loworbit.net >

Double Post: oops, sorry. Didn't know I had to Log In to post as my Handle.

Well you could, but you wouldn't be a l33t hax0r.

Posted by RenegadeSnark on Jan. 03 2002,14:58

Well well well, richard... it seems you have found my post. I think you've gotten a major stick up your ass for some reason though... did you not see that the purpose of my post was to say that you are actually a good person that should be respected? Did you not think you would be compromising my efforts when you post something that's manipulating to an unsubtle degree?

Need I remind you that you were laughing your ass off as I chunked ice cubes at said moving vehicles? Or how about when you told me how you stood way over by your front tire when your friend answered his door and you wanted your CD, just so he wouldn't see the wendy's bag in his bush waiting for relocation?

Try not taking everything negative that's said about you as some huge offensive stab in the back insult. I smacked David in the face in my post by saying he leaked bithive images to you, and you don't see a big post from him dramatically attacking my horrible injustice.

I cannot control what you think of me, but publically saying that our friendship at risk, especially in the given context, seems a bit manipulative to me. I for one consider myself to be a friend of yours, and would hope you would see me in the same light.

Re-reading my original post, you should see that I was not attacking you by saying that you had made images to taunt Jason, so you don't need to insult my tact. I am simply reminding forumgoers of the circumstances that led up to your banning, since you're trying to take a more active role in the new site.

Posted by WrineX on Jan. 03 2002,15:14

Anyhow, i wonder of good ole' rich will ever fit that Certified Badass List!...

Posted by RenegadeSnark on Jan. 03 2002,20:49

being on the certified badass list requires badass certification.

Posted by whiskey@throttle on Jan. 03 2002,21:23

This thread reads like a gossip collumn in Teen-Bop magazine.

Posted by richard on Jan. 03 2002,22:43

coming from a three eyed fish.

I wrote what I did with a 103 fever, no sweater, and no sleep. I was really cranky there.

the reason I was cranky is because I thought we'd covered this with the other three topics, and then in marches someone else with another one of these threads. Well, sorry to piss on you. But you should still call, just because I haven't tlaked to you in a while.

In terms of making things public -- we all do it all the time, so don't go off at me for that.

if you're trying to help me out, thanks I guess....

I just got home from my trip, and I just spent 20 minutes sytematically breaking every head on my drums again (both sides). SO now I'm back down to the regular level of operation. if this sounds like DKB I'm sorry, I really am running a hundred miles a minute right now.

I'll get all of those pictures up for the design stuff later tonight.

Oh, and chase....you know you're cramping my style on the "certified badass" thing. that was my email footer for ages. You best add me to the list, foo

Posted by LiNeY on Jan. 03 2002,23:35

Suggestion of the resident lady:

We declare all that stuff to be historically the "syf0nic wars in the First Age of detnet". Then, we let history rest. Those who want to may dig in the old archives...

Posted by kornalldaway on Jan. 04 2002,00:33

as far as i can remember there already was a split in life of detnet refered to as before syf0nization and after. now i guess we have started a new era, after death of detnet or detnet v2(b).

Posted by Spydir on Jan. 04 2002,01:21

jesus fuck,we don't need to hire a historian here, do we?

eras, ages, time lines... you people are reminding me of my world civ teacher

Posted by PersonGuy on Jan. 04 2002,07:27

BAH!! (that's all I got to say)

PS: I talked to syph0n on the phone, and he seems like a decent guy.

Posted by Spydir on Jan. 04 2002,19:19

what the HELL are you doing here?

Posted by L33T_h4x0r_d00d on Jan. 04 2002,20:14

Quote (pengu1nn @ Jan. 02 2002,22:03)

that shit is not fucking cool. what if you cracked someones windshield freaking them out, they swerve and hit a bus full of ppl, and everyone dies? or you hit bubba's hotrod and he shoots your ass?

What the fuck is wrong with you? That shit should be on pay-per-view. Can the bus be full of nuns? Or better yet politicians.....

Posted by ic0n0 on Jan. 05 2002,00:43

humm, this is rather a bad/touchy topic.

Posted by Spydir on Jan. 05 2002,01:07

I'll remember to bring a camera next time for ya, l33t

Posted by veistran on Jan. 05 2002,04:04

How many times do we get to go through this? You'd think we could keep it to one thread at least.

Posted by Spydir on Jan. 05 2002,04:43

how about we start another, just for good messure?

Posted by PersonGuy on Jan. 06 2002,20:15

Quote (Spydir @ Jan. 04 2002,01:21)

jesus fuck,we don't need to hire a historian here, do we?

eras, ages, time lines... you people are reminding me of my world civ teacher

DetNet Eras by PersonGuy

SMUT era (Some Messed-Up Teens) - This is before DetNet existed. Dissolutioned teenagers spent their time surfing the internet for porn, hardware hacks, and game faqs.

DICK era (Dat IRC Came Kickin) - Bah!!! You know...

FUCK era (Forums Unveil to Create a Klan) - This is actually a very breif period lasting for about a week. During this time there were less than ten members.

SHIT era (Shirts Hit Imagination Temporarily) - Eng_man plotted to bring us DetNet T-Shirts in a forum that remained the largest for several eras!

POKE era (Phuny Ol kuru Enters) - Bah!!! You know...

ORGY era (OH BABY!!! Redefines "Gross" and "Yuck") - The first thread to beat Eng_man's shirt thread in length. DetNet celebrates it's characters and humor with free spirited romp in kinky imagry.

DORK era (DetNet Orange to Red Kross-over) - cr0bar dumps the classic orange and gives life to the beautiful new red.

PENIS era (Pitty-little-fights Extends Non-stop Into Syphonization) - kuru vs. jim vs. askheaves vs. syph0n vs. CatKnight vs. Distortia vs. vulu vs. PersonGuy vs. kuru... it's a big bloody mess that extends somewhat past that actual even of syph0nization.

PISS era (Pretty Impressive Shirts Surface) - Yeah! DetShirts! FINALLY!

VAGINA era (Vets Are Going Into (the sunset) and Newbies Arive) - Nothing much happens... just a lot of comming of morons and leaving of old friends. A really sad time with all the long goodbyes and un-called-for flamming.

DAMN era (DetNet Admin Meltdown the Network) - Panic and mass chaos in the streets! Fear on every corner! Babies crying! THE HORROR! OH THE HORROR! DetNet forums split in two!

Modern era - DetNet has been reincarnated to serve the people who hate the world. RANT RANT RANT!

So there you go! Now when we need to talk about fatbitch we can refer to the POKE, ORGY, and DORK eras...

if we need to talk about caseman we can refer to the SHIT and PISS eras.

Enjoy.

Posted by whiskey@throttle on Jan. 06 2002,23:33

right.

Posted by richard on Jan. 07 2002,00:05

I'm just happy to be the "S" in "PENIS".

Posted by porn_dealer on Jan. 07 2002,01:57

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Original post by richard:
I'm just happy to be the "ASS" in "PENIS".

Posted by richard on Jan. 07 2002,12:14

david needs to < learn >

Posted by kbreak on Jan. 08 2002,03:31

The first page was the first time I wanted to print a topic out!
As you know, I have to make some valuable choices for detnet 2 and really it sounds like the story of Richard growing up. As well as a couple other people.

I particularly was interested in how R got kicked off the forums. It turned out to be less than I feared, but still interesting! I wish I had time to cruise all the forums, but I have about 40 technical emails to tend to.

Now I'm going to read the first page over.