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Topic: finally; detnet is live
started by: kbreak

Posted by kbreak on Dec. 27 2001,05:08

detvets, you know what I'm doing tonight?

I'm watching the parodies

frame after slow frame
the video took me 10.33 minutes to download on dsl, 550kbps

and it's on the harddrive anyway

I don't care

I have access to new content... I've met new people...

This is a wonderful Christmas

May God bless all detnetters and detonate.net

I wish to thank the webhost, who made this all come true

oh, and

good night,
cr0bar.

<<<<connection reset by peer>>>>

Posted by j0eSmith on Dec. 27 2001,06:53

...I'm confused...

Posted by porn_dealer on Dec. 27 2001,07:46

One suggestion - with the parodies, instead of making a .htm page for every single page of every single parody, why not make a simple PHP script. Since you seem to be correctly storing the images, you could do, for example with the Hackers parody:

Code Sample

Then, you can call each page like this:
< http://www.detonate.net/hackers/index.php?page=x >

Where x = the page you want. This is how the original bastardizations were setup on detonate, and it makes perfect sense to me.

Posted by directhex on Dec. 27 2001,10:57

or in asp, if the server is windoze. i can DO asp.

--directhex

Posted by Wiley on Dec. 27 2001,16:20

Well Kbreak, here is you chance to wow us. I say the first news post you make on the new site is a State of the Union of sorts. Explain to us who you are and why you bought the site (and I will kill you if the word n00b is used!). Let us know what you are planning, your thoughts, ideas, ..etc ..etc. I mean, there is a reason that you bought the domain right? You obviously have shit to say, so clue us in. Please do not let this become the Kbreak "How does a n00b like me do HTML" Site.
Just post what you got to say, I'm sure the formatting will be cleaned up as time goes on. Everything dosen't have to kick ass the opening day.

Posted by Quebec on Dec. 27 2001,20:22

Quote

One suggestion - with the parodies, instead of making a .htm page for every single page of every single parody, why not make a simple PHP script.

Hi,

I tried your sample code of php and it didn't work. I have to admit: I have no knowledge of php. So if anyone can help me with some scripts, I will appreciate it. Here's my email.

Take care

Posted by whiskey@throttle on Dec. 27 2001,22:20

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For now, I am the one who will take care of the site.

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Quebec

We're doomed.

Posted by directhex on Dec. 27 2001,22:34

i'm working on a contender to syf0n's design, but the menus are giving me gip. anyone know javascript intimately?

Posted by kbreak on Dec. 28 2001,02:19

Ok detvets;

Here's current news and sort of a STATE OF THE UNION address to you all.

News;
I'm in sort of a bind with the homepages; Richard T says his new site will deliver everything but the morning paper, and may even have an engine to cope with reader submissions. The other designer had a page ready to go but he didn't want to post without more content. I let this day slide to take care of my day job. I'm here now, though.
The plan of the moment is to use what's available to me, now, and use Syfon's Super Site when and if it is Super. So whoever does a page now, it may be replaced if Syfon's is as advertised. That's how I lost the other homepage!!!!
I told the other designer honestly I can't promise his page would be up 90 days from now, and he elected to split. *bummer* he's a friend of mine and I didn't want to hurt anyone's feelings!

I heard that directhex spent 6 hours working on their page, listed under topic "detnet V2.0" After I got off the phone with the other designer, I went back to DH's page and *OOPS* the tabs all work! Now I know why it took so long! I'll check back in the am Pacific time and see what you all say, otherwise I want to post DH's page and work on content.
Now that's *news*!!

More News; I've been here, what, a week? It's already apparent to me that zember311 is an alias!! I don't know who it is, but I have noticed that one word maybe intentionally mis-spelled. If that's true, I know who it is. I may never know for sure. You detvets, what do you know about zember311? Have there been other instances of aliases?

News tidbits; The Matrix Wazzup is up, thankyou webhost, and it appears the site speed is up a little. If the military gets wind of "nochance", they may crash the server and nochance may be pulled. It's a little jingoistic for my tastes, but I love the airplanes and the editing to the music is super!

Next Post; Who is kbreak? Why did I buy detonate.net? What do I want to do with it?

Porn_dealer, I hear it's a good thing you're back, and the next post is specifically responding to Wiley! And the rest of youse guys!

Posted by kbreak on Dec. 28 2001,02:27

BTW, Whiskey, I don't think we're "doomed" about the PHP stuff.
That guy did what you're looking at on detonate, so I'd like to give credit where it's due.
If you'd like to reformat the parodies to your taste,let me know.
I kinda like that the original Matrix is single frame for those poor souls on dial-up. Otherwise, I'd go with the 6 pix setup! It is easier to read.

Posted by kbreak on Dec. 28 2001,02:52

STATE OF THE UNION part II

Who is kbreak?
I've been working on that for years!

I'm a photographer in downtown Los Angeles where I've lived in a loft next to the LA river (it's concrete!) for almost 13 years.

I photograph web content, actor headshots, fashion, and "model development" which means brand new people.
I have a site, www.kevinbreak.com and if you want to see pr0n, it's not there...try thehun.net.

I smoke menthols, take care of 3 cats, and I love to cruise the internet. My DSL runs about 500kbps, on a PC at 700mz with 512 RAM, with a harddrive that's acting a little goofy.

(sidebar) a couple weeks ago I saw the inner partition was within a gig of its end. My computer friends said that when I hit that limit, it would be unpleasant. So I spent days, moving all my photos to the other side of the partition, uninstalling misc. crap and even moved the swap file to another drive! All that got me a gig. Yesterday, the computer says I have 4!! gigs left before the partition! How did that happen? (end of sidebar rant)

I've known about detnet since the Matrix parody came out. Never bothered checking out the forums, but I did look at other articles and I knew I found a site that I'd visit, at the very least, for its intelligence and humor. I still don't get all the jokes, but I laugh out loud every time.

I like to put any old thing in Google and see what I get. (suggestion) Try Googling kevinbreak.com or "kevin break" and you can see I have indeed been around the block as far as surfing goes. If that counts for anything!

I work freelance and end up shooting all sorts of weird things, all usually involving people, and so I've learned a little psychology on the side. Some months I rake in the $$, other times I don't have the rent. Life is always interesting.

My hobbies include pretty women, cards, chess, and *airplanes* You may see a few more of them. I'm fascinated by technology and mysteries, riddles. I like to study military personalities (Patton is a fave), strategies, and weapon systems. I personally don't like to see people killed by those things and if you put me in combat, I'd probably pee my pants!

Occasionally, I do things for reasons I don't understand. Sometimes I create an artwork for a femme. I don't know why I do that, I feel compelled. Once an art-director client got locked in my hi-security parking lot (she forgot the code) and didn't have a cell. She managed to bust that padlock off and I found it the next day. I mounted it on a plaque, on a sheet of aluminum, set fire to it, and pounded a few lines into the burnt aluminum with a chisel; "I'm KC the AD;don't mess with me!" I then added a ridiculously large heavy chain to hang it with. She loved it, and she wasn't my g/f, either.
WTF do I tell you that for? Well I just did it again with detnet, the next topic.

Posted by kbreak on Dec. 28 2001,03:15

PART THREE; Why did kbreak buy detonate.net?

Answer, I'm not really sure!

I cruised the site as I did every few days, and I was shocked! that Fri. nite when I saw cr0's black page of death, which is very well composed. Just on a lark I went to the eBay page to see what the bids were. A lot of you know the rest; that I was shocked that the bid was all the way up to....81 bux...

I felt insulted for cr0bar, which I'm aware is a silly response, but then I felt compelled again. I didn't go into conflict either. I just acted. I bid 200$, then 500$, which I thought was all I could afford, December being notoriously slow for photography. Finally I wrote cr0 and asked what the minimum was, and he said I could have it if I met it. That went on a credit card!

And then there was the little spat I had with "hi-bid", which was entirely my doing. I was emotionally attached to the site and was ready to fight for it, which I know was silly, as all I was, was a consumer with nothing to contribute. I owned exactly none of it at the time. And now I do.

(edit by kb; that may be the first funny thing I wrote here; remember when I got all excited about Canadians signing up for ISDN? and I got the domain names confused? I leave that up since it's honest on how I act. It's embarassing and I'll never remove it)

Honestly I feel like A: it needed saving, and B: it's not being saved! C: My own experience of the internet would be lessened by it's demise. Kinda like when a personal friend dies and life is just...less.

I've gone way out on a limb here, and I don't regret it!
I'm immensely pleased that detnet had almost no down-time and had content up within a week! All that had to do with the other designer who's left, and above all, the dutiful webhost, who was handed a real hot plate; "uh, I know this is sudden, but cr0 is sending you the DNS codes. Hope you're not eating dinner, would you mind taking a look?" I don't know his attitude about me talking about him, and so I leave him out by name. You smarties can figure it out if you want, anyway.

SUMMATION;
Life presented the time/place/circumstance for this to occur. I have no idea why! Life provided the resources and people to make this happen. I jumped on it! One thing I do know is that if I did nothing, and detonate left the stage, I'd always regret the lost opportunity. Very few things make me laugh out loud on the web, and most humor is silly toilet stuff which is lacking depth and intelligence.

Fact is, it's done. At least the basic stuff is here. I'll be paying off the bills for detnet for the foreseeable future, and I accept the challenge!

Next; what's next?

Posted by kbreak on Dec. 28 2001,03:40

STATE OF THE UNION pt.IV

I really intended 3 parts, oh well!

What's next for detonate.net?

Damfine question! I ask that constantly!

The parodies are wonderful, but they'll get old. I *really* hope that cr0bar will be around to do Matrix II when it appears. I know, now more than ever, that doing it is a huge job!

I need content, which for now, must come from other sites. And your submissions...
duSTman wants to write about Quake 2 codes, and I told him to jump on it! He's a little concerned that the article won't be funny. "Don't worry!" I said. Not all of what cr0 did was funny...

*recount*
I've been kicked off of one BBS for posting in multiple cities. I got a threatening letter from legal counsel from (I think) tomshardware.com (worth a visit) and I have a couple high-end programmers waiting to write, and even a guy in India who writes content all the time. This may change if Pak. and India get into a war. The USA would then be in a precarious position...that's another story.

Detonate.net has entered another chapter in it's existence.
What happens next depends a lot on you, the readers.

A lot depends on me, too.
I'm not a forums person, although I think you know I've worked a lot on that. I really don't care about gaming, I don't have the time for it, but I know most of you like it, so please encourage duSTman. I'm happy to include gaming in the content, for *you*. Who knows? I might turn into the total gamin' dude!
I've taken this whole thing quite seriously, and now I'd like to work on getting a sense of humor back and beginning to express my opinions.

SUMMATION
I look at detnet as a place where computer-literate people can turn to after a long day in a cubicle, and enjoy computers again. To remind them of why they got into computers in the first place. Kinda like the chocolate the finer hotels put on your pillow!

The demographics as I see them are; males, 18-50 years of age interested in computer humor, games, coding, hacking (I WILL NOT support cracking) and new curiousities about technology. Yes there are some females and I'd be delighted to have more. Make yourselves known!
Oh, and airplanes.

-sigh- next, the forums.
kbreak

Posted by kbreak on Dec. 28 2001,03:58

STATE OF THE UNION; pt.V.....the forums.....

What a sticky wicket!
I don't yet know why the forums have split;
I do believe there are at least a couple people who deserve a lot of credit for spending the rackspace to host them! I'm glad for their contributions!!

I'm aware from the rants on the forums that this must end.
And it will.

I've enlisted some trusted people to work on that. I will listen to their advice and experience. I may even take some advice I don't like, Mr DSL....
A choice will be made within about a week.
I want to be most careful/cautious about this. You can figure out why... I don't want to alienate anyone connected with detnet. I need all the help I can get to preserve the spirit of the original detnet.

Which will never be the same without the soul of detnet, cr0bar.

It may/must become something a little different, driven by reader submissions and other sites' content. I'd rather have all new stuff, but it looks like that's not going to happen soon.

I have stepped on a few toes already, to my regret. It'll probably happen again.

At the very least, I wish dearly to preserve the "flavor" of detonate.net! That would be satisfying.

I intend to learn as much as I can, and find for me/you all that I can, that which I perceive to be of interest to the community.

and now, poor fingers, part 6, a couple loose ends.

Posted by kbreak on Dec. 28 2001,04:18

STATE OF THE UNION
pt VI

What about RT, aka Syfon?

Please, RT, be slow in responding. I am aware you're on vacation.

You've pissed off a lot of people. I don't understand your reasons. You probably have some. I, for one, don't understand what flaming gets you.
I hope you do.

You can (and I know you have the ability) to create something wonderful and topical for the community, even when it means I may have to tank what directhex is doing. I don't like shedding what other people contribute (see pt 1).

You hold *your* future on detnet in your hands. "Show me the goods" is what I think of. You have been pleasant and polite, and don't think I've not noticed that you never flamed me, even when I display basic ignorance. I won't be ignorant for ever...

Let me back up a folder.
Life displays its ability by adapting.
It may be unpleasant, but adapting is part of living.
I would suggest to you, not as a superduper progammer 1337 h4x0r, but as a fellow human being, that your 'tude is not in your best interest here, now.

I suspect that you have enormous talent to display, and I'd like to take advantage of that for my/our/your benefit.

So far, you have not done anything to incur my wrath. Les' keep it that way, for our mutual advantage.

Wouldn't it be splendid if you won back some people who can't stand the sight of your avatar?

I am positive you can do that!
Not by flaming, but by producing!

I feel that you like to get attention. That's a normal human activity! I'm getting a lot of it here, and I never even thought of the forums when I paid out for detnet.

Attention may be a basic urge for me,too, but there are other considerations. Pissing off people can get you attention but I know another way!

Use your talent.

"the audience is listening"

Posted by kbreak on Dec. 28 2001,04:34

STATE OF THE UNION pt VII

wow, did it get that high? I really didn't want to do this, just produce.........*content*........and that's a tad harder than I thought.

I am purposely not editing my missives as I'd like you all to see the real...owner...! ( I did add some content earlier)
Good God, what have I done?
Why was I compelled to do this? Actually God does know, and someday I'll find out myself.

I'd like to feel that I've tied up the majority of the loose ends for the community. If there's a glaring omission, I know you'll let me know.

Tomorrow I'll start emailing those who'd say they'd write for detnet.

content/content/content.

Food for thought is what I perceive drives detnet, and I aim to find it.
I'm talented at finding things, and I aim to pull thru. There will be mistakes and frustration and stepped-on-toes, and *content*. I know I'll have begun to succeed when someone finds something new that's funny! and curious, too.
God bless you, the community,
God bless detonate.net
God bless you too, RT, I hope you get what you want.
God bless the webhost who without his contribution, this would be dead. You know he even ponied up the last of the money to pay for the domain?

God bless cr0bar who made this happen!

Goodnight, Wiley, hope you're happy.
kbreak

Posted by kbreak on Dec. 28 2001,05:17

I don't know if you like what I wrote or not. Too tired.
*guess what?*

there still is no spoon

Posted by directhex on Dec. 28 2001,09:29

if i could write that much, i wouldn't have failed my chemistry a-level coursework!

--directhex

Posted by Wiley on Dec. 28 2001,15:16

Jumping Jesus on a pogo stick, I hope you got an extended warranty with that keyboard. I think that answers all my questions and then some that I haven't even thought of yet. I didn't mean so much to put you on the spot, it's just that if I'm going to let you drive I want to make sure at least you know where you're going. So thanks for taking some time to lay everything out like that. (BTW, your manifesto should be put up on the Detonate.net site IMO for the people who don’t frequent the forums and are wondering WTF?).

Posted by whiskey on Dec. 28 2001,22:00

dude, the "we're doomed" remark was a joke, dude.

haha...get it? he's from quebec? we're doomed? hahahasdkfjhaesifuah;kjf

Posted by whiskey on Dec. 28 2001,22:01

dude.

Posted by Wiley on Dec. 28 2001,22:18

Dude, no way! It's like, he was like all "dude, WTF" and like, you were all like "Chill dude, it was a total joke". And like then all "Dude".
That was cool.

Posted by kbreak on Dec. 28 2001,23:58

dude? Quebec? Joke? uh, they are canadians who speak french....they want to secede....they're in eastern canada; where do you get "doomed", dude?

Posted by kbreak on Dec. 29 2001,02:19

I confess I'm surprised nobody tole' me about this; there's a glitch in the Original Matrix parody;
"I just saw a cat, then I saw the same cat again!"

"was it the same exact cat?"
"I feel like deja-vu!"

For this loyal surfer, the O Matrix is in a loop at the frame when they say, " OK, the pizza's late!" "OK, you take the pizza, shoot the driver and I'll take his car"

Then the little guy says, " there's something I'd like to root!"
I can't get past that frame. Anyone else get that?
I've already alerted some of the "authorities"

still don't get the joke Quebec=doom. I think it may be a gaming reference...dunno.

Posted by kbreak on Dec. 29 2001,03:13

oops, I tink I do bad ting; me forget about luminanet.com.

me forget total.

more to add to tings to ficks.

d'oh!

Posted by sHuoReNviOLiN on Dec. 29 2001,04:03

Quote (kbreak @ Dec. 28 2001,21:19)

still don't get the joke Quebec=doom. I think it may be a gaming reference...dunno.

lol I coulda sworn it was just good old-fashioned Canada bashing...

Posted by veistran on Dec. 29 2001,10:05

Quebec bashing is almost as easy as bashing LARPGers.

Posted by j0eSmith on Dec. 29 2001,10:19

Quote (sHuoReNviOLiN @ Dec. 28 2001,20:03)

lol I coulda sworn it was just good old-fashioned Canada bashing...

No no no.. Quebec bashing. They're like Canada's annoying French sibling or something.

Posted by kornalldaway on Dec. 29 2001,15:40

can't say they all are, but most of them do seem to be that way

Posted by directhex on Dec. 29 2001,16:48

no no no no no, they're france's annoying canadian sibling.

alons enfents de la patrie, le jour de gloire est arrive. yaddah yaddah yaddah. you know what i'm talking about.

--directhex

Posted by veistran on Dec. 29 2001,21:06

Why not just call them the bastard son of France?

Posted by kbreak on Dec. 30 2001,19:03

looks like it's time to start a "bash Canada" string

Posted by Nikita on Dec. 30 2001,19:06

Blame Canadaaaa ...

Heck even the French don't like em ...

Posted by kbreak on Dec. 30 2001,19:24

still don't understand doom = Quebec

Posted by Quebec on Dec. 31 2001,00:48

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Heck even the French don't like em ...

I am very surprised to see so many close minded people on this forum.

They're idiots and cool people in every country and every race. You should know that by now...

Travel a bit you will see. If you traveled and still think like that, well we're doomed...

As for the people in France, I think they're cool, specially the french women

Posted by Wiley on Dec. 31 2001,03:56

Quote (Quebec @ Dec. 31 2001,00:48)

As for the people in France, I think they're cool, specially the french women

I prefer my women hairless thank you.

Posted by Quebec on Dec. 31 2001,05:59

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I prefer my women hairless thank you.

It's like saying all americans are rednecks.

Posted by schnarf on Dec. 31 2001,06:08

With all their beady little eyes
And flappin heads so full of lies...

Welcome, kbreak!

Posted by Jynx on Jan. 02 2002,19:39

Quote (Quebec @ Dec. 31 2001,00:48)

erm, d00d...I have a suggestion.

There's this thing called a "sense of humor".

I hear ThinkGeek.com has a special on them this week, might wanna pick one up.