Forum: The Classroom Topic: Please welcome " kbreak " started by: zember311 Posted by zember311 on Dec. 22 2001,18:17
As most of you are already aware, " detonate.net " hasbeen placed upon the auction block at e-bay recently. It is with great pleasure to announce that "kbreak" is now the proud owner and soul operator of this well ran web-site. Let us take a moment and welcome "kbreak" It should be an interesting journey to say the least. At this time we would like to inform all of you fellow followers and participants that even though " detonate.net " is under new ownership, the same things you came to love and appreciate shall remain as they were. If anything that should change in this ever changing world, we hope that " detonate.net " only changes for the better. Please be patient with the change-over and understand that in this time of transition there may be a few bugs in the system and possibly a few loose links from time to time, we promise with your patience and understanding all will be like and as it should be. This web-site is based entirely upon the viewers and participants, without you this web-site would never be what is it today. Let's all do our part and make this a community we can all enjoy and relate too. Once again, let's welcome Kbreak aboard. Posted by richard on Dec. 22 2001,18:32
who are you again? I've never seen you in my life. I thought maybe kbreak would be making an announcement like this, not that I'd be getting a statement of the blatantly obvious form someone else. Dude...We all know that detnet has been sold to kbreak. Anyone who even reads the forums has seen all of this already. No need to restate it like a press release. Posted by aventari on Dec. 22 2001,21:29
I "don't" understand. So you're saying " detonate.net " is under new " ownership "?" aventari " Posted by richard on Dec. 23 2001,00:29
"exactly".
Posted by kornalldaway on Dec. 23 2001,02:53
not only that, this exact same message had been posted to every forumwhat a waste Posted by richard on Dec. 23 2001,04:06
AHH WHAT THE FLIPPING FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU ZEMBER! You little cross posting shit, it's people like you I want to beat to death with a soggy noodle! I mean, consider the logic of posting the same message 6 TIMES! And when you consider the fact that you posted something ONLY A FUCKTARDED ILLITERATE PERSON DOESN'T KNOW BY NOW....that just makes it like nine times as bad.Please, let me know what insipired your pure stupidity. Posted by Rhydant on Dec. 23 2001,07:12
oh bah. shut up both of you.i dont understand all this talk about detnet having "new" content. the last time something (like the 'I suck' thing by cr0) was posted nothing really happened. you know why? because no one but us regulars cared. its not about the content, its about the god damn forums. sure, the bastardization brought us together, but its the forum thats keeping us here. although the "1 g0t r00t 0n j00r b0x0rz" joke never gets old. *sniff* why did playnet have to die? *waaaah* Posted by kbreak on Dec. 23 2001,07:34
I've already ranted about the forums on both sites.Richard T and I may be spouting off, but we're up to something. To us, the forums are great, but we like content. You know, the things cr0bar did. Both of us are working on keeping the spirit of detnet alive. It appears to me that detnet is different things to different people. "duh" I cruised detnet for over a year and never visited the forums. I surf fast and rarely stay at a site for more than 5-10 minutes, usually seconds. I've been at the forums now for umm...lower right corner, 4.5 hours. Richard tends to bark a tad, but he has content for me and he cares about detnet. Somewhere, (ok, oregon) cr0 is watching me. Don't think I don't think about that! kbreak Posted by richard on Dec. 23 2001,08:17
aye. just finished my proposal for the new design and sent it your way, duuuude.
Posted by Spydir on Dec. 23 2001,16:53
as the detnet community, do we truely trust syf0n with the new design of detnet? I mean, come on... do we really need that?
Posted by richard on Dec. 23 2001,20:09
Not that it's your decision to make, but you obviously know nothing about what I do -- which is pretty ignorant of you, if you're going to blast my design skills. I'm helping out kbreak, not anyone who wants to be whiney because I used to flame them in the forums. Anyhow, take a look around the forums since they got rebooted and see how many people I've flamed out. To my knowledge, the answer is one. That was the guy who posted the same message in every forum.Maybe if you took a look around you might realize that just because I called you a "fucktard" one time doesn't mean I'm incapable of competent web design, something that I've been practicing professionally for 5 years now. Thanks for the open-mindedness. Posted by Spydir on Dec. 23 2001,20:25
i never said you couldn't, I just think you suck in general. You're a bad person. Flat out. Don't try to make this sound like I'm mad because you flamed me, because it's not. You have a history for being one of the most hated detnet-izens, and I think you make a bad representive for the community. I'm not nominating anyone else, I'm just saying you're a crap one.So eat a fat one, dillhole. Posted by Rhydant on Dec. 23 2001,20:39
good point.
Posted by richard on Dec. 23 2001,21:13
And what impact does that have on my ability to design a website? My hobby/job is designing websites. I enjoy it very much. Kbreak asked for design proposals, so I drew one up, and he likes it. I think I'm missing where your personal opinion of me comes into the equation.
Posted by directhex on Dec. 23 2001,21:38
Yay! detnet isn't detnet without the in-fighting. where are kuru and PersonGuy when you need them? --directhex Posted by richard on Dec. 23 2001,22:51
*sigh* Lord knows I try...
Posted by kbreak on Dec. 23 2001,23:00
well, that was an interesting read.One of the interesting aspects of being a n00b is that I don't know who I'm "supposed" to hate, and I just plain like everybody here! One person told me I shouldn't get worked up about content and just look out for the forums first. I don't wish to have the responsibility of making descisions about the forum as I'm too new. I'll see what the community says and I rely on several trusted people to advise me when necessary. I want to be real careful about that topic. I thought the homepage might be going up this weekend, perhaps Monday. It'll be a little sparse at first. I think "fucktard" is rich. I'm stealing that. The parodies should be up on Richard's page tonite! So, is kbreak the n00b doing OK so far? Posted by Spydir on Dec. 23 2001,23:02
ok... if my system crashes one more time when I type this I'm gonna throw the bitch out the window, or hunt down whoever has some trojan horse on here which is making it freeze up at the most perfect moment...I am not attacking your ability to make a webpage. I'm simply stating the detnet community doesn't like you. Sure, 3 or 4 people might, but they're probably you acting like someone else. I could be wrong, but I don't think the detnet community, as a whole, would want you as webdesigner of one of our favorite sites. So there, eat it. Posted by Spydir on Dec. 23 2001,23:07
ok... ummm....more insite. kbreak, do whatever you want with detnet. You own it now. If you want to make the regulars happy, ask us what we want. Try not to rely on others to help make this thing work, lets just get everything how it needs to be now, and then we'll see where things go from there. You're correct in coming here not hating anyone. It's the best way. Don't figure "ok, these guys hate him, so I will too". Come to your own opinions. Take a couple hours one day (if you really want, you don't have to) and read through the old threads. Figure it all out on your own. So there. That'll be Spydir's Kind Words for the day. Posted by richard on Dec. 23 2001,23:08
Introducing Spydir, the official spokesperson of the entirety of detnet. Get a grip. You're one of the few people here who hold a serious grudge against me, and I know for a fact that you haven't consulted with everyone who posts here on the matter -- and to speak in place of other people is a pretty fucktarded thing to do. You're so narrow-minded about me that you think everything I do is crap, and you refuse to think otherwise. I'm done here, or with you anyways; obviously, you're too stubborn to accept the fact that you might be wrong. Posted by kbreak on Dec. 23 2001,23:10
well, what if we waited and took a look at what Richard does?A couple guys said they'd like to design the homepage, but Richard sent a link to a draft! So guess who I'm using? What if it looks decent? If I get tons of hate mail about it, we'll just have to "adjust" it. R is working on it today, even I don't know what it looks like at the moment. He does have original detnet stuff. kbreak Posted by kbreak on Dec. 23 2001,23:17
Hey Spydir, thanx for the input. I'd love to go thru the old threads, but I'm spending a lot of time writing here, and on masterslate (a little bit) and writing people for support. I've gone to several people's houses to look at this and that. I'm also learning some of what I need to know to work on the site. I spend about 4-5 hours a day on detonate. And I have a job. I suspect you may not have seen all my posts, since I have asked for advice repeatedly!My priority is to get a site up, and adjust it later. And then the split forums.... kbreak, swimming thru the ocean that is detnet Posted by kornalldaway on Dec. 23 2001,23:52
well for one this, all that's left of the old stuff is posts were everyone flamed syf0n, and nothing of what he posted.and another thing is, just let the site get goin. let's use Richard's design in the meanwhile, and you guys can come up with something different. It is in everyone's best interest to get the main page going, and whoever doesn't like it, just go straight to the forums. First let's see what Richard got, there's always time for critisism. Just a little bit later. Posted by Spydir on Dec. 23 2001,23:54
how am I subborn? You didn't even read my whole post.
read that? make sure you pay attention to what's in bold. Get it through your head, man. This isn't about that I don't like you, which I don't, it's that I feel the community doesn't. Just read through all the old posts. They don't like you. You, CK, and Dysorderia. Nobody liked any of you. Oddly enough, none of you liked each other, either. So go ahead on with your pipe dreams that everyone loves you, because that's all they are. dreams. Get over yourself and realize the world doesn't revolve around you. I'm not hating on you or your designing abilities. I'm simply saying that you're not a person to choose to make the design, because nobody here really likes you. God, grow up man. Posted by Spydir on Dec. 23 2001,23:56
and before you continue with "you just hate it because you hate me" crap. Personally, I have no problem with your designing. I've seen bastardize.net, and thought it was ok looking. But this isn't the point I'm making. If your design looks good, so be it. Use it.There. I'm sick of dealing with richy bitchy here. You all make your pick as you see fit, it's not my site or my pick as to how it goes. Posted by Rhydant on Dec. 24 2001,00:13
like hell. thats Copyright Wolfguard. circa 1999. i agree with spydir. and really, he is right. most of us dont like you, richard. not because of your god damn desgins, but because you can be such an asshole some times. damnit man, dont you get it? Posted by DuSTman on Dec. 24 2001,00:29
Well, yeah. Richard probably can make quite a good job of the web design. That said, he is detnets most hated man by a huge margin. Posted by kbreak on Dec. 24 2001,02:39
So "fucktard" is copywrited by W in 1999...I stand "connected".I had wanted to start a "design a new detonate homepage" contest after I got some drafts to look at, and the despised Richard is the only person sending me stuff to look at. It's interesting that no one defends R, either. It looks like duSTman is right. I've talked with R on the phone today, and he's 'splained some stuff to me. You know, phones are even faster than ICQ! He's filled me in a little about the past history and the arc of detnet and he never said a nasty thing about the people flaming him here. I'm still not defending him, just reporting facts. It bothers the n00b within me that I'm working with someone despised. It gives one to ponder. He said not to take it so seriously, 'cuz I was, and he said people (him included) like to flame each other. Oh. OK. I showed another designer the draft Richard has, and the guy said he didn't like the color....well, if that's the biggest complaint, we're doing real well! I'm not really concerned with color, just the CONTENT. I'd ask cr0bar more often for advice and his opinions, but the feeling I get is that he's more a spectator, now. And I see his posts, so I know he's around. I found out from R that cr0 and I share a bad habit! Made me feel right at home, too. I've looked a little into the old threads, and it's real confusing to find out that some of you have changed nic's. Kind of like reading one of those Russian novels where people change names....who can keep track? Kinda glad I don't have the time to get into flaming. Flame on, detvets! kbreak PS Hey, I just saw that I'm listed as a l33t hax0r. How did that happen? I'm supposed to be a newbie. Now stop that! Posted by richard on Dec. 24 2001,03:00
Every other time I've tried to quit flaming people, I end up turning around and slamming someone right back into the ground. Ah, well.I guess I should just be content to be the "official asshole of detnet" There's no one way about the fact that I'm trying hard to help with this new site, though. So don't come around telling me I suck the shit from a dead goat, because I'm working a fair amount on the new detnet, and I most certainly wouldn't be doing all the work if I didn't care about this comunity and the site. I love you guys Posted by Spydir on Dec. 24 2001,03:53
ok... Fine. Although I don't know if it's the best idea to get the history of syf0nizing from syf0n himself, it's good enough for me. Yes, richy's a hated member of the group. No, I will never change my opinion that he's an ass. BUT... whatever.Maybe someone should setup a little "am I design or not" thing, where we can have a bunch of designs and everyone votes on it. No names should be attached to the design, just to make sure there's no "it's that asshole, I'm gonna vote low". Kinna like what they got over at www.oswd.org (kick ass site, btw). For now, I think we should all just shut the hell up, let kbreak here get his shit together and get the site up, then we can worry about it. I'm tired, and need to prepare for this OS upgrade tomorrow. got to many files to backup... Posted by richard on Dec. 24 2001,04:35
Look, why don't you just quit while you don't look like a complete asshole? Man, I haven't even made mention of your name since the forums rebooted, and you just come out of the woodwork to try to fuck me over. What's the point???I don't hate you. I don't know why you think everyone hates me. Just...let...it...die... Posted by kbreak on Dec. 24 2001,04:46
OhIgetit. Richard must've been syf0n, right? hmmm.R is still creating a new homepage and not one other single person has sent a link to a draft. Several people have expressed interest in designing a page, but if they don't show me CONTENT, there won't be a contest. I'm open, but R has some good ideas and he's working on them. He says he has some bastardizations, too. After New Years, we've got to do something about the split forums. I still really like the work I saw at the Mac place across the street, but the guy smokes too much pot and isn't responsible. I mean, an 8th every 4-5 days? How can he remember his name? An 8th will keep me happy for 10-14 days. *wait*....want Doritos....must play music....must watch TV with the sound off...why do I feel horny? Oh, and I'm a little thirsty... Ooooh, the colors....sleepy now kbreak Posted by kbreak on Dec. 24 2001,05:01
Okey Dokey;one other homepage submission; and it's a take on RT's page. (yah, the other designer) It appears that the new one will work with other resolutions, better. Perhaps. The look of detnet may change a couple times 'till the dust settles. I'm in ecstacy that some people are doing something about their interest in detnet! Anyone want to *suggest* some content? It's regrettable that so many hate RT and he's the one with the content and the desire. Much as y'all despise him, he's got the goods. In other words, like it or not, you need him and you're going to see his work here. If you want to displace RT, you have to show me the goods. And he's doing a good job. kbreak Posted by kbreak on Dec. 24 2001,05:04
Color me stupid, but why does the forum say that I'm a 1337 h4x0r? I don't deserve that. just curious.kbreak Posted by richard on Dec. 24 2001,05:16
aftre a certain number of posts that's what you get
Posted by kbreak on Dec. 24 2001,09:17
OICkbreak Posted by damien_s_lucifer on Dec. 24 2001,10:07
if I may interject here - hating Richard seems rather petty to me. Personally I'm quite impressed with the way he's handled himself since he came back, especially given how many people make a hobby out of hating him.When he first got here he tried to impress us all by telling us about his $$$ and his cars. When that didn't work he turned to wild flaming and harrassment which eventually got out of control, so cr0bar shut him down. That kind of shit has been over and done with for quite some time now. Forgive and forget, I say - he's been mellow since he's been back, many of his posts are actually quite witty, and he definitely has a talent for the visual arts. It looks to me like he's grown up a lot. Some of you might want to consider doing the same. Posted by Spydir on Dec. 24 2001,17:21
I don't wanna grow up, cuz I'm a flame-you-lamers kid... so many different lamers that I can flame on! Posted by ic0n0 on Dec. 24 2001,18:50
I am not coming in on this fight, I never do I and I wish to continue this. As for content we need some. Forums aren’t everything without content we will stagnant and not grow as community content draws people in. Can we start over with the negative impressions people have of one another, forgive and forget?
Posted by richard on Dec. 24 2001,19:05
relief
Posted by directhex on Dec. 24 2001,20:49
at heavy risk of getting flamed into next year, here goes:I stopped reading detnet. for a LONG time. whilst a few new faces have appeared, a few old ones have faded, most have stayed constant. i enjoyed the time spent cruising the detnet forums whilst waiting for my SNES roms to finish downloading, and met a number of entertaining people. whilst i can't comment on the most recent developments, ever since i started visiting the forums (not soon after i first visited < cr0bar.cjb.net > and its subsequent transformation) i met a number of amusing people. whilst i can't say i always saw eye to eye with everyone, i'd like to think that i got on well with most, INCLUDING syf0n, CatKnight and old favourites such as PersonGuy and kuru. i bear nobody any ill-will, and found you all an entertaining diversion. except jim, if anyone remembers him. peace and love and a merry christmas. --directhex [edit] spelling an' shit. Posted by directhex on Dec. 24 2001,20:53
maybee people have even matured a bit since my last visits to detnet - syf0n (richard) seems to have taken a step forwards but Spydir, perhaps we're being a bit immature, hmm?--directhex Posted by Spydir on Dec. 25 2001,01:54
uhhh... Sure. why the hell not. I don't really believe people mature though, I believe they just see how much of a fucking idiot they are and try to cover it up. Posted by kornalldaway on Dec. 25 2001,02:14
that's what being mature is
Posted by kornalldaway on Dec. 25 2001,02:22
u gotta take it easy man u keep saying that u r a n00b and stuff like that. well u said it once and everyone who needed to already read it. less u say it, less of a n00b u will be. as for asking possibly stupid questions, no problem with that. yes detnet has it's share of hardcore flamers, some of detnetters are real flamebait, some possible are jailbait. but i am sure they can simply answer your question without flaming u since u are the owner of this site, and u already told everybody that u don't have much experience with it so i say relax a bit, take it easy, chill. u will find most of the people here are really friendly. some might not seem that way towards Richard or CK or others, but they got their reasons. Posted by Ok on Dec. 25 2001,06:13
Ok, Korn and Spydir;You seem to be level-headed folks. Looks like RT is spending more time on the forums than working on a page. Dunno, maybe he'll send me a link Xmas day! I've gotten some really good advice from some super people about this RT thing, the problem is one is happy to accept him and the other says "watch out"! So what to do? Actions speak louder than words. RT, impress me! I've been saying "n00b" for a couple reasons. I have been, and I was also using that name for the first few days, and I want people to understand that I've switched. Guess they have! kbreak Posted by kornalldaway on Dec. 25 2001,16:48
about Richard, thing is you can't, or shouldn't, judge him by what others say. just let him be. with time you will form your own opinion of everyone on these forums. syf0n has his bad days and his good days, and i haven't seen much of his bad days in a while (partially due to his absence).give it a month or two and you'll figure these things out yourself Posted by kbreak on Dec. 26 2001,02:00
Ah yes, senor Korn.Problem is, I want to do a quality job, and I need to get detnet up again faster than later. Syfon has had an interesting history here. His new placement as homepage designer is like a plot twist out of a movie. There has been some emailing going on privately, and I've heard a lot both pro/con about RT. He has done nothing to abort my trust in him. He's doing what seems like quality work to me. I just would like it done faster, as always. I 'spose I'll have to get used to his flames as like the rest of the community. I certainly believe it would be in his best interests on the forums to produce content instead of flames. R seems to me to have a drive to be "right" at all costs. I have the same compulsion; what's interesting is when I find out I'm wrong and I get to learn something useful! I need to remember it always takes longer and costs more and is more trouble than the estimate--*always* Perhaps what RT is doing is an act of contrition, or revenge. It will be interesting/amusing/fun to watch me go through the learning curve, esp. for me... I want what's best for detonate.net! For now, that's getting a page up! I do not find it useful to have RT flame people who may be useful for detnet. I may just have to get used to his somewhat acerbic personality! We'll see. I am switching to Opera,and it does look faster! I need to find out how to import bookmarks, same as with the newer and safer email program; it imports all right, but from Outlook Express! I thought I got rid of that ages ago. It must be sharing files with the current email program. I'll ask my friend "hacker guy" about that in the AM. Posted by kbreak on Dec. 26 2001,02:27
teehee! I'd like to ask you all for a present from the detnet community; I wanna cool avatar too! Can someone send....oh, a picture of a nuke going off? As in the word "detonate"! You know, mushroom cloud? I confess I wanted to nuke Afghanistan for a few days after 9/11. I feel a little calmer now, just smoke the guy out and put him in solitary for life. I think it would be appropriate to hang him at the WTC after a fair trial. Problem is, it's counterproductive to create martyrs. Better to let him rot. (please let the 9/11 reference stop here, or create a new thread) Meanwhile, I wish to thank several members of detnet, esp. duSTman, who may have real content, Kornalldaway, directhex, spydir for the type-A reality check (are you a Scorpio?) yes, RT for writing the beginnings of a homepage and there are a couple who will remain anonymous and I'm deeply grateful for them, and DSL who has been like a rock for me and has put up with numerous cries for help and action without ever losing his cool. He has a stabilizing influence on the forums and I'd like to know more about him. I think he's changing jobs and he knows about computers and he doesn't swear much. I know nothing more; will check his profile later. My family came to California in the gold rush, 6 generations now! And all these years later, one of the bloodline is sifting sand again, finding gold amongest the grains of sand and the occasional nuggets! I still think RT is either a Leo or a youngest child in da family. Sorry that I was going on here, was going to save it for New Years. ps cr0bar, what day of the month were you born? Posted by Wiley on Dec. 26 2001,02:44
Tru dat! You got to form your own opinions about people. Post have a way of being interpreted differently by various readers. Sometimes something somebody says strikes a nerve and you go on a two page rant about it, flaming the original poster during the course of the rant. When the dust settles it's hard to explain that you didn't dislike the man ..you disliked the idea expressed by the man. Also sometimes people can assume that one's skin is thicker then it actually is. Ten people will flame someone as a larf, but the flamee takes it to hard ...can lead to unintentional hurt feelings. I've said some things about people and their mothers without thinking, then a week later I get a message asking why I hate them. I'm like, huh? I wasn't even serious ...I know your mother is not working the streets. I mean, how could she be working the streets when she's been here sucking me off every night this week. -edit: wacked spelling Posted by kbreak on Dec. 26 2001,02:53
now whiley, don't make me go and thank you too. My mom doesn't swallow. I know for a fact. Now stop that. Posted by richard on Dec. 26 2001,03:17
Since you seem to be into to the astrology thing, I'm Pisces. I'm also the eldest in my family.Additionally, I'm going on vacation. And there's not much I can do about it. I'd love to help with your site and all, as I think I've proven, but my family takes precedence over anything internet related. I'm going to finish packing, and I'm leaving at the crack of dawn tomorrow morning. Good luck with the site, but I don't know if you still want my help or not -- your pm messages/forum posts/emails have been, when totalled up, sort of bipolar -- I get a different feeling from every one. Hopefully by the time I get back you'll have a better feel for what needs to be done. I think one of the problems right now is that you're eager to take the helm, but don't know exactly what shots to call from the director's chair. I'll be around, if you need me. Posted by kbreak on Dec. 26 2001,03:21
actually RT has made an accurate call.He's like a sword. Never know what it's going to cut next. He has the homepage in his hand; we'll see what he does. Let's hope he has a great vacation. When I'm wrong, I'm very wrong. When I'm right, watch out! Merry Christmas! to everyfuckingperson I ever met, dammit! Posted by kbreak on Dec. 26 2001,03:40
here's one of the things I've been working on tonite, the taliban kick-ass military video.>>>>Pasted email here;////// hot damn! Thanx for your advice today of all days! Merry Christmas!! I'm spoiled with dsl and don't think that 4mb is anything to write home about. I'm totally happy to give credit, but you have your nic on the last page; tell you what--do you have a l'il banner I could post? kbreak. PS detonate was the original content homepage of cr0bar; he wants to leave and the fans aren't ready. The community has written about your video, and if I get a homepage up, you're there. Enjoy the link. -----Original Message----- From: Grouchy [mailto:grouchy@midwatch.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 7:23 PM To: Kevin Break Subject: RE: drowning pool. You can mirror the file anywhere you like (throw my email around the page somewhere if you don't mind). My server is dying from the load some days. Seems to be really popular with guys overseas in the military and they've been hammering the site! I've been hosting a small Windows Media version, and an MPEG-1 suitable for VCD. I also have an MPEG-2 for SVCD that's higher quality but I don't post it because of it's size. Let me know if you want it or any other formats. I look forward to seeing the site go live again. I recognize the name but don't remember what the site was for?<<<everything and nothing>>>(editor) -Grouchy- -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Break [mailto:kbreak@kevinbreak.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 7:42 PM To: grouchy@midwatch.com Subject: drowning pool. Seeking permission to mirror your drowning pool avi on detonate.net Have you heard of detnet? The site's being rebuilt after its sale. Your video would fit in as content. I found forum members talking about it on detnet's forums! I already saved the file, you wouldn't have to send it! kbreak Posted by richard on Dec. 26 2001,04:44
No offense meant, kevin -- just relating that as a "n00b" I know you don't have it all under your belt yet, though you're very eager and willing to learn. Some things have to be hurried in the beginning, and some things don't. When I come back I'll see what's going on, and hopefully I'll be able to lend a hand.
Posted by directhex on Dec. 27 2001,22:42
is THIS to your liking? i pity the foo'! --directhex Posted by kbreak on Dec. 28 2001,01:16
yes, DH, I like it; esp as it looks nothing like me! I'll work on grabbing that in the next am; lots of pots boiling right now.
Posted by directhex on Dec. 29 2001,16:32
got myself a dvd of the a-team for christmas. went to the trouble of a frame-grab to make that avatar.--directhex Posted by kbreak on Dec. 30 2001,02:40
YOU DEE, ummm MAN!
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