Forum: The Classroom
Topic: Dinner and a Question
started by: Wiley

Posted by Wiley on May 01 2002,23:48
Just a random thought I figured I'd entertain.
If you could have dinner with one person from this forum in "real life" who would it be and what one question would you ask them.

For me it would be a toss up between CK who I'd ask if he ever thinks that being a physicist will get him laid and BlackFlag who I would ask if he looses any sleep at night due to the fact that ICEEs are so much better then Slurpees even thought the research budget of the Southland corporation is vastly superior to that of J&J Snackfoods.

And to think, I've only begun to drink this evening.
Posted by kuru on May 02 2002,00:02
I'd pick you Wiley, so that I could ask you if you really are as soullessly corporate as you seem on the forum.
Posted by Non on May 02 2002,00:25
I'd pick Kuru and ask her "If I could get her another drink."
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Posted by ic0n0 on May 02 2002,00:43
I'd Pick John locke or Immanuel Kant, i would ask them if they ever thought humanity would be able to destroy itself in a few hours.
Posted by kuru on May 02 2002,00:48
They post on this forum?
Posted by Non on May 02 2002,00:51
I think BF is Immanuel Kant reincarnated.
Posted by liquid metal on May 02 2002,02:39
who's Immanuel Kant?
probably someone important i have no idea about. figures.

i'd take LiNeY to dinner..and ask her if she has sudden urges to drive on the other side of the road..
Posted by just_dave on May 02 2002,02:43
I would probablly take kuru, and ask her if she wanted to skip dinner and just go to the gun range    :D

:p dave :p
Posted by editor on May 02 2002,02:54
cr0bar and I can hang out at the burger place and throw
AOL 4.0 disks at passing cars.
Posted by damien_s_lucifer on May 02 2002,03:13
editor.

i'd ask him if he wanted to ship the new detbox up here and I'd host it on a T1.
Posted by editor on May 02 2002,03:27
ack!

I did consider dinner with you, though.
Already had beer with Mr Wiley...

That's an interesting idea, although the current webhost probably wouldn't take the 5K$ he paid for it.

Our webhost is always up to something.
Posted by Neophyre on May 02 2002,05:53
happiness is a bong and a never ending supply of weed.
Posted by CatKnight on May 02 2002,06:00
nikita!

wanna get dinner tomorrow night? :p

someone else i havn't met eh? well then i'd have to say...jiggyfresh! or Non

I'm surprised no one said darkangel yet  inlove.gif
Posted by ic0n0 on May 02 2002,06:05
I am an idiot, I didn’t see the “on the forums part” so you can ignore what I said prior.
Posted by editor on May 02 2002,06:25
Umm, DA99!!!!!
Posted by ic0n0 on May 02 2002,06:36
No one wants to have dinner with me? That makes me a sad panda!
Posted by Nikita on May 02 2002,06:43
Quote (CatKnight @ 02 May 2002,01:00)
nikita!
wanna get dinner tomorrow night? :p

if it weren't for my damn skeletomuscular physiology and biomechanics final on Friday (my only and my last!;) , I would!

I'll be in town all summer.  If you're lucky, you might catch me sunbathing in a bikini. ;)
Posted by Anztac on May 02 2002,07:01
cr0, I think.  Though he's technically not on the forums anymore.  I'd just like to get a chance to talk to him.

That or Kuru :D  And ask her "What movie you want to see?"

...and I still want to meet my lady LiNeY, unfortunatly, like Jason, I don't think that's too plausible.


Posted by BlackFlag on May 02 2002,07:46
Southland is a bunch of fucking morons.  A bunch of rich, stupid, Japaneese-owned morons.  Why, for the love of god, did the indians(or was it the americans??) have to sell 7-11 to the germans, who sold it to the japaneese?

The only half decent slurpie is cherry coke, but i haven't seen that one in almost a year.

Anyway, I'd like to chug a few brewskies with WG.  He at first struck me as an increadible asshole, then later just an asshole......  now im thinking he's like a procupine... squishy on the inside, fuck-your-ass-up on the outside.  Hard to tell over the net though.
Posted by 1LT on May 02 2002,08:36
Dinner with 1LT then ask him why the fuck he's talking to himself.
A lot are picking Kuru but asking the wrong question. I'd hand her a gun, and bluntly ask "Wanna Fuck?" I figure she hasn't had good live target practice lately.

Notice how question 2 explains why I'm eating alone in Question 1.
(Must stop being an ass)

For the Liney driving question, Germany isn't England. (Unless you happen to be in England, then it makes sense).
Posted by kuru on May 02 2002,11:50
Dave: I always want to go shooting.
Anztac: I don't know yet. Ask me again on Saturday.
1LT: What makes you think I'd shoot you?
Posted by Jimi on May 02 2002,12:46
I would say Dark Angel, and i'd ask how's life going.

or

Spydir, and i'd ask what the thing with monkies is all about.
Posted by Wolfguard on May 02 2002,14:12
Quote (Non @ 01 May 2002,19:25)
I'd pick Kuru and ask her "If I could get her another drink."
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Been there done that :)  

It was a good time with a great person.


I would break bread with most of the people here.  If your ever in philly on thursday nights bring your worthless knowledge to General Grants.  Me and the Mrs hang out, drink and play Quizzo every thursday night.

yes BF, ill even break bread with you.
Posted by kuru on May 02 2002,14:40
Yea Wolfy, that was a good time. Freakin shame one of my migraines had to show up or I probably woulda crashed over.

I'd actually also like to met BlackFlag, and if things go as planned on Saturday I will be meeting Anztac.

Also, Non, the answer to your question is 'Yes, but only if I can buy you one too.'
Posted by Wiley on May 02 2002,17:52
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I'd pick you Wiley, so that I could ask you if you really are as soullessly corporate as you seem on the forum.

I wouldn’t say I’m soulless; I do have morals and ethics even though they may be a little more watered down than what some people are used to.  I do however go to work to make money.  I don’t go to work to have something fulfilling to do during the day or to express my creativity or even to try and make the world a better place.  I just go there to pump funds into my bank account.  For this reason I have abandoned all sense of company loyalties and any notion that the company will take care of me without my having to ask.  Instead (much like the other Jim) I will quit my job at the drop of a hat and mold myself into something another company is looking for just to bump up my salary.  I don’t think less of those who take less financially rewarding positions (volunteering for Greenpeace, trying to make it in music, or painting pictures at craft fairs for $2 a piece) I just don’t think that they have a right to complain that they don’t have enough money to live on.
We all remember when we were asked what we wanted to do when we grew up, but it seems a lot of people never took the question seriously.  I know a lot of people in their late 20s, 30s and 40s who are still trying to figure it out.  Wake up people, it’s too late!!  …what your doing now is what you do  …that’s it.  If you wash dogs then you are a dog washer  …that’s what you do.  Don’t tell me of your nonexistent plans to be a director; you should have gone after that before you became a dog washer.  You have to come up with a plan and execute it if you want to make a serious play for a particular career.
When I realized my life was heading downhill fast I stopped and thought to myself “where is the money at?” then I picked an industry rich in cash and went after it, altering my plan as I went a long to increase the amount of cash that flows into my pockets.

But I’m not soulless, I have hobbies and passions and beliefs just like everybody else.  Just right now most everything revolves around money.  But maybe that’s because I’m about to drop a shitload of it on a wedding in 8 days.
Posted by ic0n0 on May 02 2002,17:56
Quote (Wiley @ 02 May 2002,03:52)
 But maybe that’s because I’m about to drop a shitload of it on a wedding in 8 days.

Yout should take pics of it for us, that would be cool.
Posted by kuru on May 02 2002,18:46
Wiley, the only thing that gave me the impression you had no personality outside your corporate image was that you have expressed such hearty disapproval of pretty much everything about me from my tongue ring to the color of my hair.

So, yes, I am curious as to whether or not the corporate world (in general, not just one company), owns your entire life. Or could you look at me and not express disapproval and the arrogant idea that I couldn't possibly hold a candle to your circles because my hair is striped and I have metal through my tongue?
Posted by jim on May 02 2002,19:23
Dinner with syf0n, then ask him if he wanted me to kick him in the nuts, or punch him in the nose.
Posted by Wolfguard on May 02 2002,19:29
ah...the "head or gut?" question.

Always a good time.
Posted by veistran on May 02 2002,21:49
ic0n0, so that we could plot the destruction of all that is good, nice, fluffy and/or fuzzy.
Posted by just_dave on May 02 2002,22:16
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Dave: I always want to go shooting.

Well then I would skip dinner go to the range right off and use my question to ask "Should I call or nudge you for breakfast"  LOL  j/k Kuru  :D

dave
Posted by damien_s_lucifer on May 02 2002,22:23
he paid $5K for the current server?  sure.  right.

i could set up a new detbox with the same specs for almost free.

aren't you paying $150/mo. right now for SDSL?  I think I can get the price to under 100 bux to be hosted on a 768K fractional T1.  maybe even free if we can convince forum members to buy their parts from my work.  especially those members who work in IT departments ;)
Posted by chmod on May 03 2002,00:15
For me it would be DSL, so we could talk about Pinback and Libertarianism. Or maybe WG or CK, interesting characters they are.
Posted by Wiley on May 03 2002,02:06
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Or could you look at me and not express disapproval and the arrogant idea that I couldn't possibly hold a candle to your circles because my hair is striped and I have metal through my tongue?

I think we could have a nice dinner, you are educated and an interesting person.  We can talk tech or about my studies of art  ...maybe some philosophy.  However I still would disapprove of the hair & piercing thing.  It's not so much because I disapprove of the idea of light body modification, but because at a certain stage of life it becomes more of a hindrance then a positive expressional force in your life (such is the law of diminishing returns :( ) and I can't see the logic in it.  Illogical=bad
I pierced an ear in the 6th grade, had a Mohawk my junior year in HS, and got tattooed in college  ...all mostly for shock value  ...and why not?  I didn't need approval from anybody at that point in my life and so I was free to do anything I wanted  ...even if it meant nonconformity.  But now that I'm in a more conservative peer group I notice a lot more of the subtle (and sometimes not so subtle) things people who comply with the social norm do to those who don't.  From being questioned at length by security to being seated in the back of a nice restaurant  ....the freakier you look the worse you are treated.  I know you are going to say that this kind of stuff doesn't really happen to you but I could prove it to you at our dinner.  We can walk in separately to an A list restaurant with no reservations and ask for a table for ourselves and a guest who is not yet present and see what happens.  If you would like we can bet dinner on who gets seated first.
So to make a long story short (too late) I just don't get how defying the social norm can be beneficial  ...while on the other hand I clearly see how being somewhat of a yes man can help push you toward the top.
So yes ...admittedly I sold out to corporate America but I don't really see a downside.

And Ic0n0 ...I'll post the pictures as soon as I get back from the honeymoon. :D
Posted by ic0n0 on May 03 2002,02:09
Quote (veistran @ 02 May 2002,07:49)
ic0n0, so that we could plot the destruction of all that is good, nice, fluffy and/or fuzzy.

Thank you. Our evil will overcome! BWHAHAHAHAHAHA
Posted by damien_s_lucifer on May 03 2002,02:30
/me thanks chmod... though it would be more like fuck the restaurant, let's drink beer and play Pinback really loud and argue liberalism (!= leftist politics) vs. libertarianism

wiley, if you ever have to visit the Bay Area for some reason, give me a call.  up here the question isn't how much you fit the social norm so much as how classy you are... classy meaning you're polite and you look like you take care of yourself.  striped hair + good fashion sense + good manners = the world is your oyster.

LA is much more divided than SF.
Posted by Uberkommando on May 03 2002,02:41
Methinks I'd buy icono a cheeseburger, and discuss my plans of world domination.

Or perhaps DA99, and see where it goes from there...
Posted by kuru on May 03 2002,02:53
Actually Wiley, when I go out, my ass gets kissed because I look like a person who commands the respect of everybody around me.

There's a demarcation between 'white trash' and 'bold confidence' that you seem to be missing, and that line is not made by how many pieces of metal a person has in their body.

Regardless of my hair colors and my piercings, I come off as someone who damn well belongs in a $200/plate restaurant because I have class - and that's not something that depends upon my tongue ring.

I have found that it's not necessary to fit the conservative norm to be a classy person or to be treated with respect when I'm out because I don't walk around with the attitude that I will allow someone to be disrespectful to me. There are very few people in the world today who, like you, equate 'different' with 'worse' and believe that the only reason to have striped hair and body piercings is to be 'rebelling' against something else.

Get over yourself, Wiley. I didn't get pierced to spite you or your conservative friends. I did it for me, because these things are a part of who I am as a person, and frankly I doubt you'd find yourself capable of being at all smug about this if you met me in person.

The down side, Wiley, is that you sold out. You said it yourself, you're a 'yes man'. I still own myself, and I respect myself. I wouldn't trade my self respect and my ability to look at my own eyes in the mirror because someone attached a higher price tag to me sucking his cock and fitting HIS idea of what I should be.

That's the benefit. I still own myself. You don't.
Posted by Wiley on May 03 2002,04:54
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DSL
wiley, if you ever have to visit the Bay Area for some reason, give me a call.

I was actually => <= this close to moving there earlier this year when I found out there was a new office opening there with my name on it.  The opening date has been pushed back to last quarter so I'm sure I'll make a few visits then and check it out.  Next month I'll be in Menlo Park for a few days  ..about an hour out of the city I think.  

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Kuru
I didn't get pierced to spite you or your conservative friends. I did it for me, because these things are a part of who I am as a person,

Ahh  ...I stand corrected. A hole in your body with a piece of metal through it for the purpose of making a slight lisp and a god awful clicking noise while striking against your teeth as you talk is who you are? And you want it that way?  Well then by all means keep the dream alive; go big  ...how about a nice shiny plate in your lip?  Show us all you are the free thinking trend setter and not just another Blink182 groupie who got pierced in a strip mall right next to a Starbucks. :o


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The down side, Wiley, is that you sold out. You said it yourself, you're a 'yes man'. I still own myself, and I respect myself. I wouldn't trade my self respect and my ability to look at my own eyes in the mirror because someone attached a higher price tag to me sucking his cock and fitting HIS idea of what I should be.

I'm said I'm somewhat of a yes man ...not completely sold out, I'm just picking my battles carefully.  And personally I don't see any difference between sucking cock, wearing a short skirt, always volunteering for the tough assignment or frequently working late to get ahead.  They are all means to the same end.  Working harder and loosing out on time with your loved ones is no more noble then shaking your ass to stand out in a crowd.  And does it take away your self respect to use your body to advance yourself?  I don't know, ask a professional athlete how used they feel running themselves ragged after a ball for the amusement of The Man. I think it's just a matter of what is more important to you as an individual.   ...or don't you think women in the workplace should have the right to free expression pertaining to their bodies? ;)


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and frankly I doubt you'd find yourself capable of being at all smug about this if you met me in person.

I think you'd be surprised, I'm pretty much a what you see is what you get kind of guy.

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That's the benefit. I still own myself. You don't.

Yeah, but I own a lot of other stuff :p
Posted by Uberkommando on May 03 2002,05:06
Hey! Some of us teenage-y people *like* Blink-182!

...Nice comeback, though.
Posted by ic0n0 on May 03 2002,05:11
People always assume I am a conservative when they first meet me because my personality is subdued and I listen to people when they are talking. I also use eating utensils in the European style so people think I am also European or something, I don’t know. Anyway what I am saying is that I am not conservative or a euro wantabe. What does this have to do with the afore mentioned topic…nothing I just thought I would say this cuz kuru was saying how she acts conservative.
Posted by veistran on May 03 2002,06:30
Quote (Wiley @ 02 May 2002,22:54)
Ahh  ...I stand corrected. A hole in your body with a piece of metal through it for the purpose of making a slight lisp and a god awful clicking noise while striking against your teeth as you talk is who you are? And you want it that way?  Well then by all means keep the dream alive; go big  ...how about a nice shiny plate in your lip?  Show us all you are the free thinking trend setter and not just another Blink182 groupie who got pierced in a strip mall right next to a Starbucks. :o

they do make for some really good head tho...
Posted by Jason on May 03 2002,06:35
Quote (jim @ 02 May 2002,11:23)
Dinner with syf0n, then ask him if he wanted me to kick him in the nuts, or punch him in the nose.

Can I come too?
Posted by veistran on May 03 2002,06:59
doesn't just about everyone want to give him some "love?"
Posted by editor on May 03 2002,07:42
This is strange.

I've gone through 3 OSs in a week.
3 different Office systems.
I just lost 1200 emails, about which 500 where about Detnet.
Maybe cr0 came here, I see Richard now...  (ack)
Both of my sites register number one in Google.
Google =
detonate

Google =
photography los angeles.

this is just plain odd.
Posted by editor on May 03 2002,07:45
btw, yes, Jason.
Posted by BlackFlag on May 03 2002,08:47
Tatoos, extreme hair colorization , and piercings fall into one of 3 catagories:

1. doing it for attention; to stand out.
2. rebelling against something/someone
3. because its the norm (such as tribal face mulilations, etc.)

any other explinations are bullshit.  "Because its who i am" is bullshit.  you weren't born with a 14" mohawk or a ring in your nose.  As much as it might hurt to admitt it, you paid money for that Meatloaf tatoo.... it didn't just grow there.  Maybe the water is a little funny in Jersey, but it didn't turn your hair green.
Posted by kuru on May 03 2002,13:20
Wow, I never thought I'd see such closed-minded bigoted assholery on detnet.

I retract my previous statement, Wiley. I wouldn't have dinner with you if you paid me to. There's nothing I have to ask a guy who thinks that I should demonstrate my free expression by doing exactly what he expects. To put it succintly, you're a schmuck.

I don't have a lisp, and there sure as hell is no 'clicking' when I talk. Unless I deliberately tell someone or show them, they don't even know that the piercing is there. So you can cram your assumptions about me right up your Gucci ass, Wiley. I have nothing to show you, and I don't feel the need to prove what I am and am not to you. I doubt you'll ever understand that.

You did sell yourself, and it apprently bothers you quite a bit, because you've spent a lot of time here railing at me for being completely unapologetic about the choices I've made. You on the other hand, seem to believe that material things can make up for the loss of yourself. Good luck with that, really, but I've known people like you before. Very rich, very successful, very miserable.

I've been patently clear when I've told you more than a dozen times that if I were a brown-nosing little apple polisher like you, I wouldn't have any self respect. As it is I am paid well and respected in my field because I'm good at what I do. I didn't have to start rimjobbing my boss in any figurative ways to be treated well, and I'll bet it's a bur in your ass that you have to. If anything, Wiley, I feel sorry for you. You can surround yourself with material things that don't express your personality because you no longer have one - you gave it up so you could buy material things.

That's an empty kind of life, and one I'll never subject myself to.

As for you, BlackFlag, you need to learn a few things. One of those things is that you are a recombinant dickweed with no sense of reality. No, I wasn't born with a piece of metal through my tongue - no more so than Wiley was born with a silk noose around his neck. That's what distinguishes human beings from the animals. We can expand ourselves beyond what we were born with. You unfortunately can't expand your mind enough to realize that someone else's reasons for living the way they do might not fit your tidy little pigeonholes. So go on and assume that your narrow little worldview is the only perception that exists - it won't make me suffer.

I'll just continue to shake my head and laugh at how full of shit you are. Giggling at the fact that you really believe the rest of society was even a consideration when I got pierced. Damn you're arrogant if you think I gave one thought to you or any other person when I went to that piercing shop. Piss off screwboy, I never cared that much whether society took notice.
Posted by Wiley on May 03 2002,14:52

Posted by just_dave on May 03 2002,15:11
Same thing when I colored my hair,  Everyone was like "Your just doing cause everyone else is"   No I am not I am doing it because "I"  want to.  Why, Blue is my favorite color what can I say.    I didn't color my hair for attention, or to be mainstream I colored my hair because I wanted it blue to see what it looks like.  You only live in this life once.  Why not try the things you want to try.

Kuru:  I for one understand why you had your tounge pierced, cause you wanted to, and its what you wanted to have done.  

I think most people assume that you do something because someone else did it and with BF and his ONLY THREE CATAGORIES... sit on it and rotate slurpee slinger... there are reasons out there for many things...

dave


Posted by Bozeman on May 03 2002,15:32
After some deliberation, I chose DSL.  Perhaps we could have a comparative discussion on morality and liberal viewpoints over a chicken quesdilla combo with a mountain dew.  It would be refreshing to converse with a detnetter who is to the left of the political spectrum.

Dammit, now I want a chicken quesadilla combo with a mountain dew.  TO TACO BELL!
Posted by kuru on May 03 2002,15:33
And it seems Wiley has just forfeited the argument.

Or maybe he's not aware that any moron who suggests a woman is hormonal because he doesn't have an intelligent retort to her opinion has just admitted he's full of shit.

Whether he knows that or  not, he's just admitted he has no logical recourse. Bravo, Wiley.

If there was an Oscar for 'Pretentious Dickhead of the Year', you would've just won it.
Posted by Wiley on May 03 2002,16:57
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If there was an Oscar for 'Pretentious Dickhead of the Year', you would've just won it.

I Won!! WhoooHoooo!!!

It was a joke, but since you are too ignorant to know when to quit and because winning something I care very little about seems very important to you, here you go.

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Wow, I never thought I'd see such closed-minded bigoted assholery on detnet.

That’s because you lack short-term memory  …we’ve had many discussions of racism and sexism.

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I retract my previous statement, Wiley. I wouldn't have dinner with you if you paid me to.

Really?  You don’t strike me as the type who would put a fork down  …seeing have you love to trash talk the girls of Cosmo for contributing to what you feel is a negative image that such a magazine focuses on women.

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I have nothing to show you, and I don't feel the need to prove what I am and am not to you.

Yet you go on and on trying to explain exactly who and what you are all about.

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I've known people like you before. Very rich, very successful, very miserable.

You live alone right?

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As it is I am paid well and respected in my field because I'm good at what I do. I didn't have to start rimjobbing my boss in any figurative ways to be treated well, and I'll bet it's a bur in your ass that you have to.

Sure you did, you had to work hard and constantly prove that you know your stuff to get ahead.  You said it yourself, you pull your own weight and so companies are force to cut you some slack with regards to some of your personal preferences.  You slack and you die.  Me, I’m in the good old boys club and just me standing here presenting a good image to clients and not looking like a freak is worth money to the company.

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If anything, Wiley, I feel sorry for you. You can surround yourself with material things that don't express your personality because you no longer have one - you gave it up so you could buy material things.

Yes, I am completely void of personality because I can buy material things.  This is a great stride forward in logic.  So I guess that’s why the poor get invited to all the good parties and run in such large social circles.

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That's an empty kind of life, and one I'll never subject myself to.

Yeah, that’s because of that glass-ceiling thing. Funny how executives always tend to fit the same demographic isn’t it?

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As for you, BlackFlag, you need to learn a few things. One of those things is that you are a recombinant dickweed with no sense of reality.

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any moron who suggests a woman is hormonal because he doesn't have an intelligent retort ..

Yeah  …dickweed is nothing but raw intelligence.  Are you ever not a hypocrite?

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So go on and assume that your narrow little worldview is the only perception that exists - it won't make me suffer.

I never said it was the only one that exists …I said it was one that would help me to achieve my goals with the least amount of resistance.  

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Giggling at the fact that you really believe the rest of society was even a consideration when I got pierced.

Yeah, I’m really buying that you don’t care what society thinks.  Prove me wrong, get a visible offensive tattoo, and put a padlock through your ear or a plate in your lip if you just don’t care about the societal norm.  You won’t  …you know why?  Because you know you know that you do care what people think and you’re not that good at what you do to get away with it. C’mon how simple is that?  One lip plate and I will admit defeat  …since piercing is who you are anyway and societies opinion doesn’t matter to you what’s the difference.  Yeah …you just keep trying to look non-conformist in the same trendy way as everybody else.
Posted by jim on May 03 2002,17:01
Wiley fucking rocks!
Posted by LiNeY on May 03 2002,17:17
It's hard to pick one of you guys, because actually I'd like to meet each of you in person, and I'd have a question for each of you.
Given the chance of meeting just one of you, I guess I'd pick askheaves (skip dinner, get straight to the whisky), CK (didn't you always wanna have dinner with me? ;) ), icono or of course, anztac (dude... we're gonna have dinner together sometime for real!!!;).
Posted by Necromancer on May 03 2002,17:45
Wiley makes me laugh so does kuru. they both are talking out of their ass in some cases but have valid points in others. It's the assumption that people have that they're always right with their opinions that keeps the aguments going...

...and thats a good thing cos detonate wouldn't exist without it ;)

no-one pays me much attention  anywayz and i like it that way. I think i'll stay right here and watch from the sidelines. I'm no good at conversation anyway so i'll just dwell in my own reality or something on my own as usual :)
Posted by kuru on May 03 2002,18:34
You just proved again that you don't get it at all, Wiley.

Why would I not get a 'big offensive tattoo'? Because I don't want one. I have never had any interest in tattoos. I don't want to ink myself. It's not something I find interesting.

But you think I should get one because of you? Jesus H Fucking Christ I didn't think you were that dense.

And all of a sudden because I don't dig heroin-anorexic as the 'ideal standard of female beauty', I'm a compulsive over eater? Have you always dwelled in the land of the false dichotomy?

I don't slack? What the fuck do you call posting to a message board during work? You are one messed up little man.

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Yeah, that’s because of that glass-ceiling thing. Funny how executives always tend to fit the same demographic isn’t it?


Lifeless little sellouts with nothing but a facade to offer? Nah, not at all. I'd be surprised if people like that *weren't* in the asskissing ring.

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One lip plate and I will admit defeat  …since piercing is who you are anyway and societies opinion doesn’t matter to you what’s the difference.  Yeah …you just keep trying to look non-conformist in the same trendy way as everybody else.


So I should 'look non-conformist' by conforming to exactly what your mental image of a non-conformist is? How does that work? Oh, right, it doesn't. Lip plates, although popular in a couple of African tribes, are not 'who I am', so Wiley, I guess you will just have to live in disappointment that I don't exist to YOUR idea of what I should look like.

You are a stuck-up, arrogant, greedy, snobbish asshole. You wouldn't know a thing about what kind of parties the 'poor' go to and whether or not their social lives are fulfilling because you're too busy looking down your Armani nosejob at them.

I snub people who think that looks and money are an excuse for being brainless assholes, Wiley. I don't judge someone by what they look like, I wait until they show some character and then I decide whether or not they're worth my respect.

Your habit of looking down at everyone who's not exactly like you means you're not worthy of respect. I do have a question for you though.

Is it hard to sit down with that stick up your ass?
Posted by TheTaxMan on May 03 2002,18:53
What Kuru fails to realize is that her stick is just as huge...
Posted by kuru on May 03 2002,19:05
Yeah, sure it is.

That's why you see me going around telling Wiley to prove just how corporate he really is by having an Armani tag implanted in his ass.

I've been hard on Wiley here specifically because he's gone to such great effort to deride everything about me. Because he thinks that he's superior and he has an unyielding need to disapprove of me based only on the way I have described my looks.

A stick up my ass? No, not at all. Just a general dislike for the kind of people who think that physical apperance is the paramount importance in the world.

But of course, your opinion of me will always be what it will. It's a pity, but not one I'll lose any sleep over.
Posted by Anztac on May 03 2002,19:51
Wiley: Some people do things to their body for their body.  Because it looks, or feels good, or because of any other number of reasons.  For themselves though.  Despite what you think other peoples' views don't rule everyones lifestyles.  

Kuru: As long as both of you are making blatant stereotypical assumptions, and insulting eachother on a personal level, neither of you are going to quit.


Personally I think it's stupid, and horribly presumptious to pass judgement on someone else.  Ever.  Not to mention the fact that neither of you have met eachother in person.
Posted by kuru on May 03 2002,19:57
My assumptions about Wiley are based only on the things he's been saying about me.

But, I suppose you're right and it's pointless to continue to play turnabout.

If Wiley is ever interested in getting to know me as a person, I would welcome it. Same goes for BlackFlag and jim.
Posted by Wiley on May 03 2002,20:25
This one’s for you Poster Formerly Known as DKB.  There will be much talking out the ass in this post.

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You just proved again that you don't get it at all, Wiley.

You obviously didn’t see me getting it last night :)

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Why would I not get a 'big offensive tattoo'? Because I don't want one. I have never had any interest in tattoos. I don't want to ink myself. It's not something I find interesting.

Ok …ink in the hair, interesting   …ink on the skin, not so interesting.  I’ll try and remember that.

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But you think I should get one because of you? Jesus H Fucking Christ I didn't think you were that dense.

A simple “no sir, I value societies opinion too much to do something so non-conformist” would suffice  …we don’t have to bring Jesus into this.

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And all of a sudden because I don't dig heroin-anorexic as the 'ideal standard of female beauty', I'm a compulsive over eater? Have you always dwelled in the land of the false dichotomy?

I’m sure they appreciate the label “heroin-anorexic” as much as one would like the label “engineer-junk in the trunk-plump”.  And yes, in Wiley world everything is black or white  …I have no time for the likes of Switzerland.

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I don't slack? What the fuck do you call posting to a message board during work?

I don’t know  …how long does it take you to post?  I think squeezing in a movie or 9 holes of golf during lunch is slacking.

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So I should 'look non-conformist' by conforming to exactly what your mental image of a non-conformist is? How does that work?

And with the hair dye and tongue ring you don’t already look like every other non-conformist?  I doubt you would stand out much at Korn concert or anything.  A lip plate now  …that may turn a few heads.  

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You are a stuck-up, arrogant, greedy, snobbish asshole.

Fuck …you pretty much nailed it there

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You wouldn't know a thing about what kind of parties the 'poor' go to and whether or not their social lives are fulfilling

Do I dare believe my ears  …Kuru queen of bitching when people make assumptions is making assumptions about my knowledge of how the poor live?  And poor is not a subjective word  …by poor I mean people with a lack of money.  But I think it is ok to feel bad for them as another definition of poor is Eliciting or deserving pity; pitiable  …so sad.

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because you're too busy looking down your Armani nosejob at them.

You obviously didn’t get your winter catalog  …Armani does not do nose jobs.  Wish he did though.  Even though I’m not a big fan of Armani  …there, I said it  …I’m a rebel.  Donna Karan is by far my favorite designer.


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I snub people who think that looks and money are an excuse for being brainless assholes
So basically you just snub Beverly Hills as a whole?  Wow, I bet that puts SAG in a world of hurt.

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Is it hard to sit down with that stick up your ass?

Your wit is uncanny  …you should write for Leno or something.  I mean inferring that I am some kind of manikin or something  …wow  ..comic gold I tell you.
Posted by veistran on May 03 2002,20:33
Wiley needs to get into marketing.

This post brought to yo by the number 666 and Satan.
Posted by Wiley on May 03 2002,20:34
All right  ...I will cease.
Dissaproval of one's actions do not mean I dislike a person as an individual.  I don't aprove of people playing music with foul lyrics loudly while driving through a school zone  ...doesn't mean they can't be the nicest people in the world though.  

Kuru, Black Flag, Jim and I at dinner  ...now that would be classic.
Posted by kuru on May 03 2002,21:03
So then the dinner question becomes:

Who's going to referee?
Posted by BlackFlag on May 03 2002,21:34
with kuru there, a swat team should be on standby =p
Posted by kuru on May 03 2002,21:35
Standby?

They'd never get there in time if fighting broke out.

They should just come directly to dinner.
Posted by Bozeman on May 03 2002,23:37
How did this wonderful, insightful and overall unthreatening topic turn into another flamewar?
Posted by just_dave on May 04 2002,00:29
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How did this wonderful, insightful and overall unthreatening topic turn into another flamewar?

Its like SH*T... it happens.......  hehe.gif

dave


Posted by Jynx on May 04 2002,00:53
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So then the dinner question becomes:

Who's going to referee?

I volunteer, but only if I get diplomatic immunity, a Kevlar vest, and a cement bunker for when things get really out of hand.
Posted by kuru on May 04 2002,03:45
/me hugs Wiley
Posted by BlackFlag on May 04 2002,19:33
i must warn you..... i've watched Enter The Dragon 5 million times, and can badly injure myself in an attempt to defend myself.
Posted by kuru on May 04 2002,19:44
We'll pick a place that's close to a hospital.
Posted by just_dave on May 04 2002,19:56
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i must warn you..... i've watched Enter The Dragon 5 million times, and can badly injure myself in an attempt to defend myself.

SO!! I know words like Karate, Sword, Martial Arts, ... I know all them deadly words.....   :D

dave
Posted by TonyDennis on May 04 2002,21:19
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Dinner with syf0n, then ask him if he wanted me to kick him in the nuts, or punch him in the nose.

Hey Jim, you remember < this >?
Posted by Dysorderia on May 04 2002,23:51
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Dinner with syf0n, then ask him if he wanted me to kick him in the nuts, or punch him in the nose.

Hey Jim, you remember < this >?

hehe that still makes me laugh hehe.gif
Posted by Anztac on May 05 2002,06:29
Well, I've done one of my three now.  Asked my question too.  Answer was "Murder by Numbers."  Too bad spidey was sold out.

Heheh, fun time =)
Posted by chmod on May 05 2002,06:38
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Well, I've done one of my three now.  Asked my question too.  Answer was "Murder by Numbers."  Too bad spidey was sold out.

Heheh, fun time =)

I saw spidey yesterday. Its a damn fine movie.
Posted by editor on May 05 2002,07:25
dammit, Anztac, I had to read the entire thread to the first post to realize you were on topic.

That must've been interesting!
Hey xxxx!
Posted by kuru on May 05 2002,20:23
Anztac is a cool dude. Very fun hanging out with him.

And it definitely is too bad spidey was sold out. But hey, Murder by Numbers wasn't bad at all. :)

And he didn't even pass out from my scary drivin!
Posted by editor on May 06 2002,00:47
We can only imagine... are there Anztac fingerprints on the arm rest of yer car? Deep ones?
Posted by Anztac on May 06 2002,02:11
Tee hee hee, I wouldn't take it too hard, noone since my brother has been able to scare with me with cars ;)  Believe me they've tried


Posted by veistran on May 06 2002,17:56
The only kind of driving that'd bother me would be "grandma driving." you know what I'm talking about, going several miles down the highway with your turn signal on, averaging at least 10MPH below the speedlimit, parking in the left lane while driving below the speed limit.
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