Forum: The Classroom
Topic: AIM or ICQ?
started by: neotope
Posted by neotope on Jun. 20 2000,23:11
Just curious to what you guys thought of the instant messaging programs. ICQ has in my opinion been a great program but AIM is coming up with some new features that are really improving it. Also one thing I like about AIM is that it doesnt have like a bunch of features that nobody uses. It has everything I need. Curious to see what you guys thougth was better. Of course I use both neotope for AIM, 15475654 for ICQ.
Posted by eng_man on Jun. 21 2000,01:18
AIM all the way!!It's smaller, has all the features I want, let's you actually use letters in your nick (all numbers BLOWS) oh yeah, it's logo isn't a flower. My nick is engman if you haven't guessed yet, feel free to tell me how much you want my sexy body ^_^ ------------------
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Posted by cr0bar on Jun. 21 2000,01:53
I use both, but AIM is more convenient, I must say. ICQ is nicer for file transfers, etc. I don't use more than half of ICQ's features, though.------------------
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Posted by aventari on Jun. 21 2000,01:58
i use both of em. im starting to lean towards AIM though, despite my better judgement.
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Posted by Hellraiser on Jun. 21 2000,04:11
I don't use either, only Messenger type client I use is MSN messenger because one of my email accounts is hotmail.------------------
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Posted by Sithiee on Jun. 21 2000,08:36
heh, i use AOL, but its not my fault....of the two though, AIM is easier than ICQ, and im all about user friendly
Posted by jrh1406 on Jun. 21 2000,12:15
I'd have to go with ICQ, besides having all the features of IM and more that i use, it doesn't feel like it was coded by a bunch of blind druken monkies, I find all of the automated features in IM (auto popup boxes and whatnot) incredibly anoying, I hate typeing in one message box, only to have another pop up right in the middle of a sentence. ICQ also allows you to acually send messages to people who aren't online, which means if you want to drop someone a quick note you don't have to wait until they're online to tell them. ICQ is also incredibly configurable, i can set everything the way i want for quicker use than anything on IM. *please excuse the rantness of this post, i am tired and this is really late for me*
Posted by DrunkNigel on Jun. 21 2000,12:27
I'm going to have to go with ICQ on this one. I only really use message/file transfer/chat but it's saving grace is how your uin is a number. That number identifies you. You can assign a name to that number and change it when ever you want. So when you just install it, you don't have to have a name like 'drunknigel264'. You can just have 'DrunkNigel', even if 50 other people have the same nick.Never liked AIM for some reason. Probably because no one I knew actually used it. ------------------
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Posted by neotope on Jun. 21 2000,12:37
What does everyone think of AOL possibly open sourcing AIM. Do you think anybody would be able to develop other clients or would this just be used to make MSN messenger and other clones compatible with AIM?
Posted by Wolfguard on Jun. 21 2000,12:46
dont forget the grand daddy of them all, powwow.personaly i use aim. ------------------
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Posted by wikkiewikkie on Jun. 21 2000,14:22
Odigo lets you use both.. Lame-0 GUI needs some work, but it's a cool ideal regardless.
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Posted by eng_man on Jun. 21 2000,15:08
quote:
Originally posted by wikkiewikkie:
Odigo lets you use both.. Lame-0 GUI needs some work, but it's a cool ideal regardless.
< http://www.odigo.com >
I tried Odigo once, it was a piece of crap. Lasted a few minutes before it was uninstalled. Maybe it's gotten A LOT better since the time I tried it? ------------------
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Posted by DuSTman on Jun. 21 2000,17:40
I am going to have to vote for ICQ.Software: Though ICQs software is a bit irksome and annoying, at least it runs, which i cannot say the same for AIM on this system (crashes after about a minute) Protocol: Once the potential size of a community exceeds a certain size using nicknames alone to differentiate between people is no longer practical. The potential userbase of an IM service is HUGE, but none of the millions of people can share the same name.
Posted by Nachoman on Jun. 21 2000,18:04
I would have to go with ICQ (though I use both). Its more powerful in many ways and doesnt have those anoying ads that IM has. Its only drawback that I find is that it often drops connection at random times.Interestingly enough, both IM and ICQ have open source counterparts under Linux (many in fact) that work with the normal AOL/Mariblis servers (i.e. no separate server for the opensource ports). I'm not sure if licensing restrictions prevent this kind of project from being started under Windows though. Nachoman
Posted by Kayy on Jun. 21 2000,18:15
When you look at it in perspective, AOL own both IM and ICQ anyway, so whatever your thoughts about AOL, if you use ICQ you're using one of their products.BTW - Yeah, I use ICQ, but I dont use AOL's shitbox of a client (ICQ2000), I use 99b, the last of the non-aol variants. ------------------
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Posted by Nero on Jun. 21 2000,22:16
i actually just installed aim two days ago. it pisses me off when i'm trying to call someone and they're online for six hours. a bit of irony there. and most of my local friends have aol, so it helps to just know their screen names. i'm unhappy about my name, but nero, nero_drusus (no underscores!), nerodrusus, and nero42 (still love hhgttg) were taken so i am now nero442. and i am unhappy about it. damn numbers.i'll bitch more about it after i've used it some more. ------------------
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Posted by Lordbrandon on Jun. 21 2000,22:45
I use bolth constantly, though since aol bought icq, i suspect they'll eventualy merge
Posted by Chrissy on Jun. 21 2000,22:53
I use both though I prefer AIM. I dunno why, just seems easier. ICQ takes too long. Unfortunately not a lot of my friends down under have AIM they have ICQ so I always end up using both. I like the freedom I have with AIM to change my shit around...i guess you have that same freedom with ICQ but whatever its a pain the ass------------------
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Posted by Rol3x on Jun. 21 2000,23:52
I use AIM to talk to people, i got sick and tired of fucking around with ICQ and all of its numbers, just like eng_man, im not down with that flower logo at all. i use ICQ for files and with games, but i use AIM more overall."You're all a bunch of fucking idiots."
-Jim Morrison
Posted by rig_hater on Jun. 22 2000,01:33
i'm an ICQer all the way. i've had it since early december '96 (two weeks after its release), and i just stuck with it. The super low UIN is nice too  . i've played around with AIM, but everyone i chat to has icq, so i really have no need for AIM.------------------
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Posted by neotope on Jun. 22 2000,02:09
quote:
Originally posted by eng_man:
I tried Odigo once, it was a piece of crap. Lasted a few minutes before it was uninstalled.Maybe it's gotten A LOT better since the time I tried it?
nope eng Odigo still sucks I tried it the other day.
Posted by Observer on Jun. 22 2000,11:47
Something else about AIM vs ICQ:AIM consumes way more bandwidth than ICQ. It goes back to how it was started. Back when it was just on AOL, the service was constantly polling the server to see who came online. Messages were sent through the server, unlike the peer-to-peer setup of ICQ. True, ICQ2000 now keeps an open connection to a server, but it's not always sending data (I've tested this over my dialup.). I have actually done file transfer tests with people having AIM off and on.
Posted by directhex on Jun. 23 2000,05:22
icq.course, both are owned by aol either way. --directhex ------------------
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Posted by XaSERaX on Jun. 23 2000,05:26
all evil.
i have a cellphone and pager, and people are always calling me. nothing different. i stay hidden. if i want to talk to you ill find you. or call you. otherwise leave me a msg and ill get back to you
Posted by BadMath on Jun. 25 2000,04:51
I use ICQ, mainly to set up Counter-Strike games with my cousins. All (I mean that too) my friends have AIM. So the only way I can talk to them is through that and I think it is way to redundant to have to IM programs going. By the way, about being identified as a number, it actually helps. For instance when AIM was on my computer, my friend would tell me the screen name of someone we knew at school. Well this became a pain in the ass because he would never give me the correct spelling or make it case sensitive. For ICQ just type in the number and let loose. Plus while chatting and in the list, users are refered to by their screen names, guess what mine is. Oh and ICQ may have a flower but AIM is AOHell.
Posted by eng_man on Jun. 25 2000,14:20
You think some 10 digit number is easier to remember than a screenname? This is the reason we have dns servers.Which is easier to remember? < www.detonate.net > or 209.217.42.44 Exactly. This is why I don't like ICQ, that and that damn flower. =p ------------------
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Posted by neotope on Jun. 25 2000,14:52
quote:
Originally posted by BadMath:
Oh and ICQ may have a flower but AIM is AOHell.
Well smart guy ICQ is brought to you by Mirabilis and Mirabilis is owned by AOL so I guess in your opinion ICQ would be AOHell.
Posted by rig_hater on Jun. 25 2000,18:14
ICQ does offer an advantage to those who are still indecisve re: their screen names - since your id is a number, it's easy to change your handle, and your handle can be whatever you want it to be, even if it's not unique.------------------
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Posted by ch1ckie on Jun. 25 2000,22:24
i agree....icq went downhill with their 2000 version, so i'm still with the 99b..never did like aim....then again, no one i really knew used it.
Posted by neotope on Jun. 27 2000,05:08
I think icq2000 is better then icq99b I like some of the new features and it seems more stable. And I like the GUI.
Posted by nautilus on Jun. 27 2000,21:22
I use both b/c I have friends who exclusively use one or the other. There are some things I like better about IM, and more of my friends use IM only, but overall I think I like ICQ best. I'm still using 99a because it was the last (and only, if I remember right) version to allow you to set the contact list position to the top or bottom of the screen instead of floating it or putting it to the sides. It used to bug me that the computer I have at work (as well as in the labs on my campus) only had IM installed, but now that I have a unix-based version of ICQ that I can use there it's no longer an issue.
Posted by Nene on Jun. 28 2000,13:42
ICQ, definitely. Since its a bit more complicated than AIM, it cuts down on the idiot factor.
I also like the History function. My friend and I are slow messagers, so its nice to be able to look at what was said.Okay, that was useless input. Figured I'd share. ------------------
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Posted by Ozymandias on Jun. 28 2000,14:33
You'd think less idiots would be inclined to use something complicated, wouldn't you? Once, while on Available For Random Chat (before I learned, the hard way, not to do that) I got a message from some dumb teen ditz. I didn't realize the danger involved, so I added her to my list.Ever been playing chess, and then made a really bad move, and not realized it until the other player took an important piece? Yeah. Soon she began giving out my ICQ to ALL her friends, and so I kept getting flooded with requests to be added by total strangers. Even worse was that each one of them was JUST LIKE HER. (i.e.; ditz with no redeeming qualities.)They all had the same interested, acted the same, talked the same...And, of course, being just like her THEY gave started giving my ICQ out to THEIR friends. (And it was hell trying to get these people to tell me how they found me. "How did you get my ICQ?" "What?" "You just requested me, how did you find me?" "I clicked your name..." and so on). After a year and a half I managed to fully cleanse myself of them. But, after learning my lesson, I stuck with ICQ and never went on random again. Wow, that was pretty off-topic. Anyways, despite that, I like ICQ better. Besides, everyone I know uses ICQ.
Posted by SamShark on Jun. 28 2000,22:14
They're both owned by AOL, so either way you're using an AOL "product"... I prefer AIM myself.
Posted by incubus on Jul. 12 2000,19:01
Said it before, but if you use linux, then use everybuddy (www.everybuddy.com), it rox0rz, it's both clients. Dadaa.  ------------------
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Posted by psychopharmacologist on Jul. 12 2000,20:05
at 1st i refused to use AIM. (eeww aol and all)
but now i actulay found it quite convenient. But only a suplement to ICQ. ICQ comes 1st.
Mosstly becuz u can send msgs to ppl who r offline. thus replacing email for most purposes.
AIM is however faster for chats and whatnot.Sure aim is usefull, but i couldn't live w/o ICQ.
Posted by directhex on Jul. 24 2000,16:53
well, considering aol bought icq some time ago, we're all unclean for using ANY of these message things (msnm is microsoft, the others are aol). however, i prefer icq because:* your number is yours, nobody else's
* file transfer is easy
* voice messaging works and is barely slower than texting
* icq+ skins
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Posted by Rol3x on Jul. 25 2000,05:11
quote:
Originally posted by directhex:
well, considering aol bought icq some time ago, we're all unclean for using ANY of these message things (msnm is microsoft, the others are aol). however, i prefer icq because:* your number is yours, nobody else's
* file transfer is easy
* voice messaging works and is barely slower than texting
* icq+ skins
* who uses the word "buddy" these days? --directhex
Whats this "your number is yours" stuff? when your on AIM do you often get messages from people with the same screen name as you? myself, this has never happened and far as i know, my screen name is mine. unless someone borrowed it then put it back before i even knew.... hmm...
Posted by jrh1406 on Jul. 29 2000,02:31
Yeah, you're IM name might be yours, but i'd rather be known as Bytor with a unique number people can search if they can't find my real name in the database, then have to deal with a screen name like bob6664539567398
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