Forum: The Classroom Topic: Nicks started by: Nero Posted by Nero on Jun. 16 2000,20:16
Where did everyone's nick come from? I don't know all the allusions, so help me along.Mine is from the Roman emperor. I have to admire someone that will crucify anyone and everyone that pisses him off. That's punishment and deterrence. The bodies lined the road into the city. ------------------ Posted by Kolben on Jun. 16 2000,20:42
Kolbe...means flask in danish (The ones you have in labs). My friends in the lab started calling me Dr.Kolbe as I managed to disolve the bottom in one with some flouric acid. Later peopled lost the Dr. part and "Kolben" means the flask.
Posted by Sithiee on Jun. 16 2000,22:39
i was choosing a new AIM name after reading a cool star wars book about the sith, so it had sith somewhere in there, and then one of my friends started calling me sithiee, and thought it was more unique, so i switched.
Posted by Ansible on Jun. 16 2000,23:02
Steps to figure out the origin of my nick.1. Read Enders Game by Orson Scott Card. Posted by j0eSmith on Jun. 16 2000,23:32
My nick is really an inside joke of sorts with friends.. How it came about exactly is foggy.. but we were joking about Big Brother is Watching.. which somehow got turned into Joe Smith is watching. And I've just carried the joke along for awhile.. and thus j0eSmith was created....------------------ Posted by The_Hiro on Jun. 17 2000,00:43
I read Neal Stephenson's "Snow Crash" and enjoyed it thoroughly. Hiro Protagonist is a bit long to use as a nick, and is usually taken anyways. So I modified it to The Hiro.
Posted by cr0bar on Jun. 17 2000,00:52
If you like Snowcrash, "The Diamond Age" is very good as well. It's sort of a sequel, not really. I'm starting "Cryptonomicon" now. BTW, if you want the origins of my nick, check out issue #6 of b0g at b0g.org, they might have published a pseudo-interview.------------------ Posted by AnimalPrime on Jun. 17 2000,01:40
AnimalPrime ..the coolest name ever!!!Animal is my nick in real life the came from wrestling in gr.9. After i kicked this kids ass i get up and someone yells "That kid is an Animal" it stuck. Prime is because the transformers rule...optimus prime ------------------ Posted by Sithiee on Jun. 17 2000,01:47
yeah transformers!!!...it would rock if the new series didnt rape goats for a living....instead they shoudl just show reruns of the old transformers....or maybe just the transformers movie.
Posted by renegade on Jun. 17 2000,01:48
renegade - ill let you draw your own conclusions...
Posted by eng_man on Jun. 17 2000,01:56
Let's see ...eng - My last name and what everyone calls me anyway. _man - Not sure how this exactly came about, but one of my girlfriends (from way back when, in middle school) used to call me engman, how that _ got in there I'm not sure. That's my story and I'm sticking to it =) ------------------ Posted by SLATE on Jun. 17 2000,02:01
I was trying to think of a handle back in the day.. and my mom was talkin on the phone and i over heard her say somethign about slate tiles...so i decided.. hmm SLATE! and thus, SLATE has stickken for over 5 years now..... yes, stickken.. i make up my own words sometimes. sometimes i run.. sometimes i hide.. but like a true natures child, i was born, born to be wild.. ok **end** ------------------ http://www.the-streets.net modellers needed!!! Posted by Chrissy on Jun. 17 2000,02:06
Uh...DUHI actually use the name Lilly for the most part cause I hate using my real name...but I didn't care here really. I should have been more creative though... ------------------ Posted by Hellraiser on Jun. 17 2000,02:33
I have no recollection of where my nick came from. I personally don't think I'm that much of a troublemaker. But it's been with me for over 2 years now.------------------ Posted by Cyrino on Jun. 17 2000,04:16
Cyrino - anyone see Starship Troopers?------------------ Posted by Hellraiser on Jun. 17 2000,09:39
Of course we have!------------------ Posted by DuSTman on Jun. 17 2000,12:09
I just randomly made up dustman in the early days of my use of Irc.. I must have been about 14... Posted by Kayy on Jun. 17 2000,13:08
My nickname came about in the days of Primary School (1st-4th grade for you americans I believe, somethin like that) when we were playin a game where we took the first letter of everyones first name, then jumbled them all up to make different words.Me, being the clever sod I was back then, spelled my first initial phoenetically, Kay, and then just to be different, added another y on the end, people saw it and thought it looked girly, so they started name-calling and stuff, but they were all callin me Kayy, and it stuck with me for all the years. People prefer to call me by my real name though, read my sig. if you dont know what it is yet, but when I'm out on the town, Kevin just isnt a good name, so people call me Kayy when I'm out and about. Also, deriven from that, my clan name on an ancient 1st Person online RPG was KaYYoS, my phoenetically spelled nick, with os on the end, which was also the phoenetic spelling of the team I played on, chaos, and hence, is the reason why my domain name, all my email addresses ever registered, my somewhat small company ideas, and so on, are all registered under Kayyos, < www.kayyos.co.uk >, kayyos@kayyos.co.uk, kayyos@kayyos.worldonline.co.uk, Kayyos-Vx WebDesigns, Kayyos computers, and so on. It all fits nicely for me. Even though it started out as a playground joke on my expense. Oh yeah, if you hadn't noticed, I'm into phoenetics ------------------ [This message has been edited by Kayy (edited June 17, 2000).] Posted by Nero on Jun. 17 2000,13:38
o.k. cr0, i went to b0g and they're only up to five, so i started reading at one. the carolyn meinal shot cracked me up. ------------------ Posted by kuros- on Jun. 18 2000,12:22
Curosity suits me to a tee, spend all my time reading NewScientist/SCIAM - things like that instead of paying attention to lecturers.Friends just shortened it one day and stuck ever since. Posted by masher on Jun. 18 2000,12:52
my nick is an oblique reference to Star Wars Ep. 4: A New Hope.I needed a SW related nick for another BB, so i chose masher. Actually, it was Masher 3263827, but that was a bit of a mouthful, so I dumped the numbers. ------------------ Remember, its all your fault. Posted by kiddeo on Jun. 18 2000,13:49
well.. friends starting saying that i was damn annoying, then guadually it became "annoying kid, you". when said really fast it was like kiddyu, but it sounds girlish, so i called myself kiddeo.the worst part is when people on irc starting quiting, "kiddeo, the kid of annoyance" it's nice to be known, but after awhile, the kick dies down. Posted by neotope on Jun. 18 2000,15:42
Well I've gone throught a couple different nicks. But I finally decided I wanted to be original and find a nick that nobody else used so I came up with neotope. It was derived from this simple formula.neo + (isotope - iso) = neotope Posted by Nene on Jun. 18 2000,18:12
My real name sucks.Nene is what my 2 year old nephew came up with. It stuck over the last three years. Go figure. I've also used "sybille", my old old character name from back when I was really into Masquerade. I'm sure you all can figure out the "Sybil" correlation. Not the Nene ------------------ http://www.angelfire.com/nv/neneshome/ Posted by AnimalPrime on Jun. 18 2000,18:31
quote: YOU RULE!!! YOU ARE MORE THEN MEETS THE EYE!! ------------------ [This message has been edited by AnimalPrime (edited June 18, 2000).] Posted by DrunkNigel on Jun. 18 2000,20:31
I used to have a really weird name that I made up in grade 1. Used it til about 2 years ago. Decided it was time for a change. Changed my name (on starcraft, at the time) to DumbNigel, using my real name. People I played starcraft with said I played like a drunken bastard, so it eventually ended up being 'DrunkNigel'.nothing too exciting ------------------ Posted by Wolfguard on Jun. 19 2000,10:31
mine came from playing way to much SpaceMarine.(miniture battles)The units i had painted were the Space Wolves, the Bodygard of the head of the Wolves where called The Wolfguard. The name carried over to playing way to much BattleTech and just stuck. ------------------ Posted by DrunkNigel on Jun. 19 2000,11:52
Wolfguard, you play warhammer 40k?------------------ Posted by Wolfguard on Jun. 19 2000,12:02
i did at one time but it was costing me to much and was cutting into my paintball time. Now im selling all my paintball stuff to free up cash for my combat robots.------------------ Posted by Mike on Jun. 19 2000,14:01
Mike is just short of michael. I would use a nifty l33t name, but it just as my friends say, have th essence of mike.------------------ Posted by Mike on Jun. 19 2000,14:02
Mike is just short of michael. I would use a nifty l33t name, but it just as my friends say, have the essence of mike.------------------ Posted by DrunkNigel on Jun. 19 2000,16:11
coolI'm just starting. Playing as Dark Angel Space Marines. I do admit it is an expencive hobby, but a fun one too. ------------------ Posted by Rhydant on Jun. 19 2000,17:07
hrm.... mine was actually an accident. i was signing up for my geocities page (i know, i know) and i entered like 10 names and they were all taken, so i entered this one ('Rhydant') and it went through. i had thought it was broke, and since i knew no one would ever use this nick, and i didnt want to go back and make another one, so it stuck. its from a book (well, series of bokes) called 'The Castle of Llyre' and it was the name of a town. heh heh------------------ Posted by rig_hater on Jun. 19 2000,19:09
mine was made up by a few of my sailing buddies. i used to sail tall ships during summer break from school. i hated climbing up in the rigging though because i was always afraid i'd fall (that was a 40-80 ft. drop). anyway, i've had this nick for the past 4 years and so far, i'm the only rig_hater out there. ------------------ Posted by fendi on Jun. 19 2000,21:49
Well, I wasn't too happy with my irc nicks when I started mudding so... I racked my brains... Some of my mudding nicks came from books but this one is from a small perfume sample bottle that my yr 10 french teacher gave out (there was only 5 of us in the class so she could afford to be magnanimous ;) I liked her and I liked the perfume and I liked the name. The mud is now defunct and this is the first time I've re-used it.
Posted by mebs on Jun. 19 2000,22:35
"mebs". short and meaningless. "mebs", not "Mebs".My nick is shortened from "ameeba" (amoeba in english). I'm pretty sure all of you know the 1-celled-thingy-in-the-puddle. The ameeba is from my earliest years of Quake. I still play Q1-TF and I'm the only ameeba there so far... Originally I shortened it when I started IRCing... faster to type "/kick mebs", eh?=) ------------------ Posted by PersonGuy on Jun. 19 2000,22:45
GREAT THREAD NERO!!!I was starting a geocities site and I wanted to be use the name of a comic book character that I used to draw... "Mr. Man" But it was taken so I went with the next logical choice (heh) personguy. Then for a while it was Person Guy, and now it's PersonGuy. I've stuck with it for a few years now, and don't plan to ever change it! Yeah! ------------------ Posted by Octavian on Jun. 20 2000,03:23
duh. great-nephew of julius that kicked marc antony's AND cleopatra's asses. reunited the empire, expanded it by conquering france, spain, and egypt. his minions worshipped him as a god after he died. yeah, it's kind of cliché, but i never said i was original. Posted by steak on Jun. 20 2000,09:37
in ultima online i am steak and my brother is potatoeand we go around and kill stuff because we are too weak to kill stuff alone
Posted by Sithiee on Jun. 20 2000,20:10
dont forget the 50,000 zero cools
Posted by Mike on Jun. 20 2000,20:29
here are some of my nicks, in no particular order:Replicant_29058 - useful for creating random accounts and here i just didnt really feel like using one, because i dont really care. ------------------ [This message has been edited by Mike (edited June 20, 2000).] Posted by Nero on Jun. 20 2000,21:27
so rol3x, are you trying to insult me? sorry bub, it's not a lame ass reference to the matrix. i actually quite enjoyed roman history and was afraid of typos by going with caesar. though the similarity is there, i thought i covered that on the first post of the thread. and calling me a fag? i'm not confident about many things, but my own sexuality does happen to be one. thanks for appearing a jackass to the rest of the board.cheers, nero Posted by Rol3x on Jun. 20 2000,22:13
You obviosly feel that you need to be insulted. Who singled you out, dumbass? Nero, no one said jack shit about you, even if i do think your handle is 10 times worse then mine, i never singled you out. be confident about what you want, smartass, your still a fag.- Posted by Rol3x on Jun. 20 2000,22:18
While im here i think i will further elaborate on this subject for you, Nero. i didnt even consider you to be one of the unorigional sad-ass losers who try to be like neo or as Sithiee reminded me, like Zero cool. but you spoke up and singled yourself out. i love it when morons (cough "Nero" cough)make fools out of themselves without any provoking. kudos to you, nero. - Posted by Lordbrandon on Jun. 21 2000,05:19
for the longest time i thought this string was about nicks the basketball team, so i never read :PLordbrandon is what alls da ladies call me (yea right) I have much more intresting ones: -hotmail -boring work and school logins -icq,DN3D and other 0ldskool you can imagine it was a pain in the ass to try and rember my login so i started sticken to Lordbrandon (Thank goodness!)
Posted by jim on Jun. 21 2000,05:24
I'm pretty sure my mom gave me this name.... I dunno, I have a few nicks, that I don't use on the net. Tree - Cause I'm 6'5" ------------------ Posted by Proteun on Jun. 21 2000,05:44
You guys all know who Proteus is right? You know, the mythical shape shifting God that knows and sees all. Well some shmuck already took Proteus, for some odd reason, and disappeared since then only making one post. So I went with Proteun, which is almost the same thing, but it's not talking about a God, it's a condition in which your shape or condition or whatever is everchanging. So there you go------------------ Posted by Rol3x on Jun. 21 2000,05:46
You know what i hate? i hate these little wannabes that try to be cool and modify Neo from The Matrix so that they will somehow empower their otherwise enfeebled selves into being remotely l33t. dont get me wrong, i think my handle blows hard but im not some fag trying way to hard to be like neo from the movie. think what you want, this is my spiel.peace- Posted by Rol3x on Jun. 21 2000,05:49
oh fuck i just squished a bug all over my monitor.
Posted by Wolfguard on Jun. 21 2000,09:27
Rol3x forgot to take his lithium again...D00d, check the battery in your watch, i think its dead. Talk about stupid nicks, "Look at me, im a high price time piece." ------------------ Posted by Istari on Jun. 21 2000,12:17
Istari refers to the five wizards in J.R.R. Tolkien's fantastic Lord of the Rings trilogy. A fair definition would be "incarnate angels" because they were Maiar, but took human form in Middle-Earth. Any LOTR fans here?< http://tolkien.cro.net/else/istari.html > ------ Posted by adeadlyintegral on Jun. 21 2000,21:05
i love lord of the rings :-) i bought the silmarillion when i went to the beach for senior week and read it whenever i was bored.:-)i thought that orsen scott card took ansible from some earlier science fiction story, like the scientists in his book took it from that science fiction story as a good name in a slightly confusing bit of plot... or maybe i don't remember right, i dunno my nickname was the result of a full 15 seconds of semi lucid thought cause i wanted to post on the goverments thread and needed SOME name. makes me feel inferior and somehow shallow :-( Posted by PsyShook on Jun. 21 2000,22:23
My nick comes from my last name, Shook. And I goofed around in the Yahoo! chat rooms ages ago and had a nick, psych_d_out. Well put 'em together and I got PsyShook.
Posted by Rol3x on Jun. 22 2000,00:26
look, its getting harder and harder to steal my medicine from the old ladies around the block so if my blood pressure is up a bit you know why. i dont like my nick either, though, so feel free to bash the hell out of it.-------- "You're all a bunch of fucking idiots." Posted by PersonGuy on Jun. 22 2000,02:33
It's not just the nick!! Rol3x is annoying the hell out of me! (next on my lam0r vote list)------------------ Posted by ScruplaniS on Jun. 22 2000,09:11
Well I'm sure you are all dying to know where my nick came from.It began back in the days of Might and Magic (back when it didn't suck... 1 - xeen). I was creating my characters when I go to the sorcerer and I needed a name. So looking around at the things around me I remember taking Scrup from a game named Scruples it was just laying around. Then I added laniS sounds kinda elfish, magical so... Then when I got into BBSes and shit I started using that name, haven't seen anyone with it yet. When I started using IRC damn nick was too long so it was shortened to Scrup. ------------------ Posted by Willy Pete on Jun. 22 2000,12:51
First name: PeteWhen I lose it, I blow up and things burn. (long story.....) Anyway, a Willy Pete is military slang for a White Phosphorous gren that, well, burns shit when it blows up. Need a picture or did I make it clear enough. My mate loves Buffy and I thought that of calling him 'Buffy Overload' for shits and giggles. If anyone wants it, it's going cheap. Hehe, I might just start a biz selling original nicks. ------------------ Posted by Wolfguard on Jun. 22 2000,13:16
WP is fun stuff. Nice pretty cloud that burns the shit out of everything in it.Ah...memories... ------------------ Posted by XaSERaX on Jun. 22 2000,18:09
It came from a book i read in soph year of college, i also had PhatT1, which is what i use on Undernet, that was a joke, cause originally my school had PPP at about 2kbps, so it was too get people thinking i had a fast line to trade. then we got ethernet and now im on cable------------------ Posted by Sithiee on Jun. 23 2000,19:02
neo = new, not one
Posted by Hellraiser on Jun. 23 2000,21:14
Yeah, one form would be "Unitope" but that sounds lame.------------------ Posted by Rol3x on Jun. 23 2000,21:24
neotope-actually i really didnt mean you when i made my little rant about the neo thing. apparently i shouldnt have said any of that because it seems to have pissed quite a few people off. oh well. neotope, whether you care or not, i like your nick, and i didnt mean yours when i said that shit. there are several people who regularly visit this site that i didnt lump into that group of unorigional peoples. i meant half of the kids i see on IRC or anywhere else. i hope this clears some of this mess up, though im beginning to doubt that it will. but anyways, sorry for the misunderstanding, neotope, and nero. (i know one of you is still going to find a way to turn this around and yell at me for this, i just know it) - Posted by neotope on Jun. 23 2000,22:49
Rol3x-That's quite alright. I used the handle Shogun for a long time. I was tired of other people having it on IRC and having my AIM screen name be Shogun followed by something lame. So I decided that I would make up my own word. I thought isotope was cool but that would be common I figured so I decided to chop of the beginning and add another word. Neo was really the only word that sounded cool and that ended with a "o". Posted by Rol3x on Jun. 23 2000,23:32
the problem today, is its hard as fuck to come up with a handle/nick that doesnt sound like shit. i sat for like 10 minutes or so trying to think up something cool, its nearly impossible. but at least i dont think my nick is cool as hell or anything, then nero would have real reasons to pick on it.
Posted by Sithiee on Jun. 24 2000,01:54
you cant just come up with a nick, it has to have some sort of meaning, unless youve been using it for a long time, in which case it would also probably have some meaning.
Posted by neotope on Jun. 24 2000,05:48
quote: Hmm I assume you are referring to my nick. But the neo in my nick has nothing to do with the movie the matrix. I made up the word neotope. I got the word by taking off the iso from isotope and I added neo. Its kinda an oxymoron because an isotope is multiple forms on something and neo means one so it would be like one form.
Posted by Anztac on Jun. 24 2000,07:46
ha! Meaning? Why? I like Anztac. It's pretty cool I recognized all of the refrences to books that were mentioned here. I read alot------------------ "I am easily driven into a flying rage by blithering idiots" Posted by kai on Jun. 24 2000,17:30
well my user name was supposed to be arkain. but I never got the email for my password. kai is actually my name. I came up with arkain when attempting to setup a hotmail account back in the day. everything I thought of was taken. and somehow the word arcane popped into my head. and so arkain=arcane cept with my name in the middle
Posted by Sithiee on Jun. 25 2000,00:00
most people cant just come up with a nick. note rol3xcase and point. Posted by jim on Sep. 18 2000,16:09
I thought I'd bring this thread back up to the top, since there is now a new thread about nicks.This way, those of us that have already explained once, won't have to again. Plus, cr0 talks about his nick in this thread. ------------------ Posted by kai on Sep. 18 2000,22:01
why don't you just bring back the pic one while your at it------------------ Posted by THECybertron on Sep. 24 2000,02:07
My nick is actually NOT from transformers (although they rock).I was playing with words in 4th grade, cyber sounded fun and i had just seen Tron, so duh. It was some time later that someone informed me that Cybertron happens to be the Transformers' planet of origin. I got pissed at there ALWAYS being a "cybertron", so i used cybrtron for a while, then the THE part came in, as an inside joke about a non-existant HL-CS clan (Ten Hovering Elephants if you must know). Anyway, i also got the LOTR and Ender's Game refs. Has anyone read the rest of OSC's work> the rest of the Ender series? i have heard that they sucked, but im too busy trying to get through the Elegant Universe to read 'em... ------------------ Posted by rise888 on Sep. 24 2000,04:09
rise=second album from cute jpop group 'speed'888=richrichrich. Posted by starduck on Sep. 24 2000,23:21
I misread something and it sounded like starduckso why not use starduck? Posted by hbar98 on Sep. 25 2000,02:33
hbar98: nothing too interesting. My last name is Hershey (yes, I am related..) and I graduated in 98. The bar? Nickname in school for the longest time was Hershey Bar, however hersheybar was taken in almost everything...so I added the "98" and got hersheybar98. Then I got tired of typing hersheybar98, so I shortened it to hbar98. Other names I go by: Have been using this nick for about 5 years now.. Yes, I know, I started using it before I graduated high school.. hbar98 Posted by hbar98 on Sep. 25 2000,02:51
Oh, btw, Kai..Your name means "and" or "but" in Greek. Don't know why I said that.. hbar98 Posted by Bozeman on Sep. 25 2000,09:56
hbar98, are you a Myst fan?
Posted by BLacK-JEsuS on Sep. 25 2000,11:53
I got this nick from a running gag on somethingawful.com. But, apparently there is a new pop song titled "Black Jesus", so I'm gonna need to get my lawyer. Anyway, other nicks -neer - (no idea where it came from, my kali nick) Posted by hbar98 on Sep. 25 2000,16:58
bozeman--Yep, I am. How'd you guess I'm waiting for Myst III to come out. Haven't played Riven yet, but have read a couple books. Pretty interesting...though I like books like Ender's Game, The Caos Chronicals, and my own story I am writing out Posted by Sunspot on Sep. 25 2000,19:09
I was trying to figure out a handle for Battletech and I came up with Sunspot, Ive had this name for about 5-6 years now.
Posted by darksol on Sep. 25 2000,19:14
so do you think your handle represents the "real" you? or is it just something for fun? I think it represents your subconcious mind.------------------ Posted by Ozymandias on Sep. 25 2000,19:43
If I posted this to another thread, I forgot. If I posted it to THIS thread, I'm just a dumbass.Anyways, I like my nick. I always get people asking "Hey, Ozymandias, did you get your nick from Some Book? I'm reading that book! It's so k3wl! I wish I had a l33t nix0r like you!" As though the person who wrote it in whatever book was the first person to ever use it. (Yes, I have read the Watchmen, and no, that's not where I got it from. I read the poem a few months before I started reading it.) ------------------ Posted by Lordbrandon on Sep. 25 2000,19:54
will the real lordbrandon please stand up?I did'nt remember it was called kuru but thats the one caused by evil protiens in the brain of the food subject and when eaten the protiens slowly bond to the regular ones in your brain and fux your shit up, just like mad cow disese, they got it because the british ranchers would ground up the unwanted cow bits and feed them back to the other cows, then thier brains whould crystalize and they'd freak out. AND ALL you british people ate that meat! so about 10 years from now your all gonna start twitching and drooling and die a jibbering stumbling death, that sucks for you! Posted by Lordbrandon on Sep. 25 2000,19:56
I'm sorry, i apoligize for that last post
Posted by kuru on Sep. 26 2000,05:45
i can't explain why i chose to call myself kuru.. i mean, not too many people would wanna be named after a disease found only in the cannibalistic fore people of new guinea...i learned about kuru in a class i took once in college where i had to study medical terms and diseases. the whole idea of cannibalism stuck in my mind, most specifically that there were some diseases that people could only get by eating the undercooked brains of other people. yes, i know i am a sick and twisted bitch.... and i like it that way ------------------ Posted by askheaves on Sep. 26 2000,20:41
My nick: The reference is pretty easy.I needed a nick for slashdot about 3 months ago, but my normal nick was taken: Silly Putty. I've had SP since BBS's in high school (6 years?) and I have used it in QuakeII online. Nothing is wierder than meeting up with the only other Silly Putty out there in a match. We stopped fighting and started bitching over the name. Pretty cool. askheaves came to me in a flash of ignorance, and it just seemed easier to keep it than to maintain 2 nicks. Posted by kuru on Sep. 27 2000,00:09
kuru is a specific disease that's only found in new guinea.. i can't remember what the name of the human form of mad cow disease is, but they are both caused by prions.------------------ Posted by incubus on Sep. 27 2000,01:41
Croizfelt-jakob disease. I think.------------------ Posted by reman on Sep. 27 2000,04:57
reman...stupid, started at university when i was a hardcore irc freak. I really like R.E.M. (ie the band) and remman looked stupid so i took out an m.Sometime later (about 3 months) found out it is a brazillian name...so fancy that! regards, reman ------------------ |