Forum: The Classroom Topic: the supernatural: ouiji, ghosts, and other inexplicable oddities... started by: whiskey@throttle Posted by whiskey@throttle on May 01 2001,21:04
Whether concerning the Ouiji, ghosts, or even divinity, a lot of seemingly questionable material withstands skepticism and becomes engrained in our minds as a part of life. Perhaps this is due to the virtue of imagination, and the inherent fear humans feel at the mercy of their ceaseless creativity... Or, perhaps this is merely due to fact, and the long withstanding memories that linger after any frightening episode...If you've had an "experience," by all means share it here. As for me...well, I'll start with this:
But not always. You may get chills from the sound of a rake scraping against concrete, or, perhaps, fingernails on a chalkboard...but there is nothing - nothing - more hideous and bloodcurdling as a knife screeching along bone. It’s LOUD, and it resonates so much a bystander will feel it throughout their body, from the tiny vibrations that buzz the sinus cavity to the painful chill that races down the spinal column. Due to the nature of my previous job (the Homicide Unit of the Public Defender), I bore witness to an unhealthy dose of murders and fatal accidents. Such a job affords the great luxury of hearing every hair-splitting detail about such deaths, and in the course of investigations, there are always some fairly intense visuals to go with. One day, my boss mentioned that we had fieldwork to conduct regarding a case that I knew involved a rib cage stab wound. I really didn’t want to go, but had no choice: we needed to get a feel for our diagrams and collect any evidence the DA had left behind before going to trial. We arrived at the scene at approximately 1800 hours, and it was already getting dark in Santa Ana. For those of your that don’t know, Santa Ana is a Southern California scrum hole infested with gangs and broken down tenements. Granted, the city has its nice, safe areas (the massive county civic center where we worked is situated in a neat historic district) but some areas are just plain bad. My boss is licensed to carry, which was a bit of consolation to the fact that we were walking into a building stolen straight out of my darkest nightmares. I’ll never forget that scene when we pulled up...how the overcast sky cast a drab gloom over rusted metal sheeting…how periodic gusts of wind rustled through the uncut grass. Picturesque, in a surreal and demented way... Everything started off fine: we peeled back the police tape, turned on our flashlights, and began snooping around the first floor. The room of the actual crime was well-documented, and any evidence of foul play had been suppressed by the barrages of police officers that had trampled through over the past six months. Other than that, the majority of the warehouse consisted of dank and empty space. I recall sitting at a desk, my back to a glass pane that faced the empty hangar. I was looking through a Mead wirebound notebook, and that’s exactly when I first heard that noise. That noise… Actually, it was more like a screech, and it was coming from the upstairs loft. My boss and I looked at each other, and he pulled out his 40-06 and flicked off the safety. We made our way to the half-ladder, half-staircase positioned right outside the office and shined our flashlights into the black gap. For a moment, there was silence. Then it happened again. “Show yourself!” yelled my boss. There was no reply…just that drawn out, sickening shriek, and every time it happened it dug further down my spine. The goosebumps on my arms were almost as tall as the hairs standing up on the back of my neck, and it didn’t get any better when my boss started to climb up the stairs. Inch by inch, he crept up, and between the rib-rubbing howl and the squeak of the old, wooden staircase, I was dumbstruck with fear. I tried not to shake as I kept my light on the second story entrance. My boss slowly peered over. “It’s coming from a room,” he said. “I think it’s just the wind.” The squeaking became more frequent. I climbed up the ladder/stairs and stood behind him as he entered the last room of an especially dilapidated attic space. We could now hear the shrieking corresponding with gusts of wind that pelted the side of the metal siding. As we entered the room, we saw a tree branch rubbing up against a window pane. It shrieked again, but it just wasn’t scary anymore. The sudden flush of blood and anxiety that drains out of the brain and back into the extremities is indeed a welcomed feeling, and I breathed a large sigh of relief when I saw what our “ghost” really was. My boss walked out of the room, shaking his head at our chicken shit performance and muttering some blasphemous explicative – his way of dealing with the fright. I just chuckled, and made my way to the window. It took a lot of effort to crack the paint and turn the handle, but the pane finally budged and creaked open. I reached around and broke off the branch. Then I closed the window, and turned for the door. But then, there was another shriek. Except…except this one was real… It came out of nowhere, from all around, and I felt it resonate through every bone in my skeleton. But worst of all, I felt it… …like someone pinned me down, pried my mouth open, and slowly scraped my teeth across a concrete curb… …and in my chest, I could feel the bone being shaved, and the uneven tug of something being caught and dragged against it. Swift, indescribable pain - I couldn't even scream. And right then, my boss yelled out my name, snapping me out of the trauma. He ran into the room and found me, as he describes it, “pale as a ghost.” Jawdropped, afraid to breathe, I said nothing. He whispered, “dude...I just fucking saw something.” He was facing the door jam, holding his gun up alongside his flashlight, as if ready to shoot. He had a tremble in his voice I had never before heard. “Did you hear that?” I asked, referencing my…experience. But he didn’t reply. He just said, “Let’s get the fuck out,” and so we went. On the way down the stairs, I could have sworn I felt a drop of liquid hit the base of my neck…right down my collar, between the shoulder blades. This scared the living shit out of me at a point when I thought I had no more shit left to scare out. In fact, it spun me around and I almost fell down the stairs. The two of us hit the warehouse floor and bolted. We scrambled across the street to our car, ducked behind it, and peered back. The warehouse just sat there. I expected some ghastly face to be staring at us from the highest window, like something out of a Hollywood movie. But we saw and heard nothing. At least, nothing besides rusted sheet metal siding and rustling grass…those long green blades standing out underneath the dim gray sky. My boss explained that, for a split second, he though he saw someone squatting in a dark corner of the attic hallway, but it was gone as soon as he did a double take. When I finally took my eyes of the warehouse and looked at him, I saw that he was reaching down his back and checking his palm. I did the same. “Did something drip on you?” I asked. He nodded. We both found nothing. Not even a trace of water. It’s odd, because despite the gloomy weather and the dubious integrity of the warehouse’s roof, it had not rained in weeks. In fact, it did not even rain that entire night. Trust me, I would know… I didn’t sleep. Posted by SiLVeR54 on May 01 2001,21:41
nice job whiskey... geez, that would give me nightmares if i wasn't used to it! LOL, actually, if that happened to me that would be crazy... however, we have no idea if you're lying or not! i believe you though, and if it was fake, well.. damn that was a good story!silver Posted by whiskey@throttle on May 01 2001,21:50
Some say it was psychosomatic...Some say it could have been a panic attack... Some say it probably was a freak combination of sudden indigestion and another branch I didn't see... I don't know. But it happened. Regardless, it wouldn't be the first time. I will explain more soon.
Posted by Neophyre on May 02 2001,00:12
that is fuckin freaky, but cool none the less.but man i never knew u did that kinda stuff?? ------------------ Posted by kuru on May 02 2001,00:29
i lived in a "haunted" house for many years. i only ever saw the object of what bothered me once in the time i lived there, but most of the things that happened have no real explanation.my parents' house is a nearly hundred year old duplex in a coal town the same age. when my father's father owned the whole thing, he lived in half, and rented the other half to a married couple. the husband died, and the wife eventually moved out. the house was sold to my parents, and i grew up there. i was kept out of the unrenovated "other half", but it didn't stop me from having dreams about that house. starting when i was around three, i had dreams about going into the other half, about people living there, talking quietly, completely unable to see me, and about going down the basement stairs. it was chalked up to nightmares, except for the fact that i could describe things i'd never seen in detail. nobody figured it was much. for a long time, i'd hear the sounds of a party going on in the house, in the middle of the night. sneak downstairs, all the lights were off, and nobody was awake. i had extremely vivid dreams about the house, where it felt like i was awake. i still remember most of them, down to the clothes i was wearing in the dreams. the thing that stuck out the most was that in *all* of the dreams i ever had about that house, it was COLD in there. frigid. i'd wake up, and my room would be freezing cold. i'd notice cold spots, times when i'd walk in the front door and walk through the livingroom to get to the rest of the house, and it'd be freezing cold in one spot right in front of the tv. i only saw the "ghost" once. woke up in the middle of the night, not startled or anything, and looked around the room. there was a gray figure, middle aged, dressed in a suit standing by my desk. i stared at it for a while, and then i closed my eyes and sat there until morning. i described the guy (i said it was a dream so nobody would think i was crazy) and my aunt showed me a picture that looked just like him. the guy had committed suicide in the house when my grandfather owned it. somewhere around thirty years before i was born. ok, so i was freaked out and thought i was nuts. then again, i wasn't the only one. the cat reacted to the same stuff i did. when a cold spot would be in the room, even if he was passed out asleep, he'd run away and hide. he'd hiss and bite at things that weren't there. he'd sleep in my room, and in the middle of the night jump up, pounce at *nothing* and tear off into the hall. i dunno what the hell was in that house, i'm just glad i don't live there anymore. ------------------ Posted by Observer on May 02 2001,01:35
In reference to those cold spots, maybe there was more basis behind The Sixth Sense than I originally thought.------------------ Posted by j0eSmith on May 02 2001,02:23
Well, I (un?)fortenutly don't have any stories of that calibur (other than the time I cheated death by 5 feet), I do have a couple creepy tales (tm). First off let me remind you that I live in a small town, and have all my life so wilderness knowledge is basically ingrained into my skull. Anyways, My friend(henchforth, Karl) and I, were out at his place. He lives on a farm/ranch. Its a small scale thing, but his family owns thousands of acres that they log and/or grow stuff and/or let their cattle roam. Now, where their house is, the surrounding area all dates back to pioneer settlements and whatnot. Theres old cabins and houses scattared all around the country. We've both been stalked by coyotes and bears on various occasions, and this definatly wasn't anything like that. Brrr, now I'm all creeped out again. Thanks alot. ------------------ Posted by Dark Knight Bob on May 02 2001,15:21
< http://www.detonate.net/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000521.html > this one is true and DID happen to me but nuthing really scares me cos EDIT: btw ouijji boards are just a form of self hypnotism. i dont believe in that mumbo jumbo but i aint some scully either lil kid: STOP IT STOP IT he's already dead! This message has been edited by Dark Knight Bob on May 03, 2001 at 10:22 AM Posted by whiskey@throttle on May 02 2001,15:35
quote: I completely agree DKB. I think they are nothing more than a interface for the subconscious. HOWEVER, that doesn’t preclude them from being supernatural. I personally believe the subconscious holds a great deal of mystery and power that has yet to be charted and understood. In other words, I don’t think spirits are really being channeled, but I do think that some strange fuckin shit can come out of it.
quote: With a setup like that, you’ve got to tell us more...
quote: That’s some creepy shit. So, who lives in the house now? Any confirmation from others? Anyhow, nice post…
This message has been edited by whiskey@throttle on May 03, 2001 at 10:37 AM Posted by Dark Knight Bob on May 02 2001,15:48
one of these days something like these things is gonna happen to someone but this time theys gonna have a minigun as 133t as the one in predator and let rip on the surrounding 2km's!And then finally the boogerman is gonna get some!!! supernatural my ass try dodging hot lead asshole! ------------------ lil kid: STOP IT STOP IT he's already dead! Posted by j0eSmith on May 02 2001,22:50
Right. Alright, This story is much easier told in person, but I'll give it a go. Anyways, Me (I was 12 or so at the time) and my family were out camping at Uncha Lake (where we now have a cabin). It was in the evening, around 6 or 7 pm, in the middle of summer. We still had our motorhome and boat at this time(we've sold them both now). My Dad and I noticed the weather getting worse so we walked across the campground/resort (note: That just means the campground have people looking after it, nothing special) over to the dock and buttoned the cover up over the boat to keep the rain that we suspeced was coming, out. We were just on our way back when I stopped to look back, and seen this mass of black water sliding across the lake. So I pointed it out to my Dad, and he said "Hrm, looks like it windy over there" Then the wind hit. It was at the border between Gale and Hurricane force. There were waves created by this wind big enough to fill up a boat that had 2 feet of water clearence at its lowest point and sink it to the bottom. This was on a lake. No great big body of water, just a lake. It also picked up twigs and leaves from the shoreline, small rocks, dust and dirt and was throwing them around at us. It was about then that we decided to go back to the motorhome and out of the wind. So we started back, and we were about 1/3 of the way back when the wind gave a sudden, short, gust. I'd had to turn away from the wind to keep the majority of the dust from my eye. I just heard this sharp -CRACK-. This was just as we were walking "in the shadow" of this giant poplar tree, the kind with branches only at the top. I turned at glanced up and seen the top half of this 100' tree starting to tip over, it looked like it was heading right for me and my dad. We both just bolted forward and then -WHAM- this big crash RIGHT behind us, and a cloud of debris. I looked back and that damn tree was right there, 5 fucking feet behind me. About 15 minutes later the storm had passed, and the campground was COVERED in leaves, branches, twigs and other debris. ------------------ Posted by LiNeY on May 03 2001,19:35
Well I've never "experienced" ghosts or something myself, but I once talked to someone who is some sort of a medium. She told me a bunch of stuff the spirits had told her about me, like me previous lifes on earth etc. I don't believe supernatural stuff at all, but it was impressing because she knew stuff that practically she couldn't have known as she had never met me before. And some of the things she said about my "past" were just too good possible explanations for my "now" life. For example, she told me "You lived several lives before this one. Your last one was around 1850, in Northern America. You were speaking French as a native language, and you were a writer but you had problems because for being a woman you were too far ahead of your time. You had 4 lovers, and the last and most loved of them was English-speaking, so you decided to learn English but never got to it 'cause you died before. He gave you a butterfly brooch. The butterfly is your "symbol", and you should have a lot of red around you." Now, that woman had never seen me before in my entire life, and she told me just like that. And the scary thing is that I actually spent a year as exchange student in Québec, love speaking English more than my native language, want to become a journalist/writer, and like wearing red. When she told me that part of my grandmother's soul was in me, I started feeling really freakish. Anyway, I don't believe in soul wandering, rebirth, spirits, ghosts or anything of the kind. But I'd like to know how she got to make up all that. ------------------ Posted by Prometheus on May 06 2001,01:54
I'm inexplicably weird, too. But not in a supernatural way...My mother once did an experiment with an Oija board when she was in high school -- two people left the room, and the class decided on a word that they'd have those two guess. (The people outside couldn't hear, of course.) <<DUM DUM DUM...>> (more scary music and stuff) --edit: I didn't THINK that was spelled right... -- ------------------ This message has been edited by Prometheus on May 06, 2001 at 08:55 PM Posted by Nene on May 07 2001,02:59
Seeing as how i'm a weirdo, yeah, i've seen a few things. By far the worst is the county courthouse in my hometown. It used to be the jail, then a number of other county offices. It was built around 1905, I think.at any rate, i earned my pennies for band camp (geek) working there during the summer as a custodian. That place scared the crap out of me. Doors slammed shut on me, periodically my vaccuum would get unplugged, my mop bucket would move, I'd hear typing in empty offices (creepy). One evening there i saw an older man (i would guess 50's-60's) walk through this wall that was a plastered up door. He turned and looked at me. *shudder*. I quit the next day. Too creepy. Another experience was the summer I stayed with my friend in virginia city. 6 nights in a row I sleptwalked to the same spot in her bedroom. I was having this dream there was this man standing there, and he was saying something but it was barely a whisper. So I would get up and walk toward him, but the closer I got the dimmer he got, until I woke up standing there. The seventh day I didn't have the dream, but the whole house filled with the smell of roses. I'm going to sleep with the lights on tonight. This message has been edited by Nene on May 07, 2001 at 10:00 PM |