Forum: The Classroom
Topic: Guns
started by: Lordbrandon

Posted by Lordbrandon on Jul. 06 2000,20:06
how many detnetters own guns, how do you feel about gun control
if you own a gun what kind is is and are you a good shot
Posted by j0eSmith on Jul. 06 2000,23:01
I own a few guns. (well my dad does they're half mine:P)

a .270 a .22 and a pellet gun.

I really belive gun control is a load of bullshit. All my reasons are the same as in any arguement on the issue so I won't list them.

And I am a pretty good shot. One of my friends is REALLY good (12 inch grouping at 1000 yards - 3 shots) With a large calibur rifle.

I can hit an X <- that size at 25 yards with 7 of 10 shots is my current record. Thats with a .22


Posted by *Feste* on Jul. 06 2000,23:16
I own a gun, bought it for purposes of protection when I was managing a night club and closing up in the early hours of the morning alone... never had to pull it out... never had to shoot it at anything with a heartbeat - and this suits me just fine

They have their place... just wish sometimes they weren't so easily obtainable.

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Posted by jptech on Jul. 06 2000,23:19
M16-A2 with pistol grip... damn it's fun to shoot!

As to gun control, it's just like the bumper-sticker "Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my gun"


Posted by k00gs on Jul. 07 2000,07:11
I can understand owning a gun for self defense, say for living in the crime capitol of the world, but other than that I think guns aren't that interesting, or necessary. I've been desensitized to guns and the people that kill them, cause where I lived, people got shot and that was it. man, the only way to kill someone is with your bare hands. =D Strangling them, getting punched in the face, punching back, grabbing a can openener bashin in the eye watching blood spew ... woah never mind. Ahh pills kicking in again. whew, no really im ok
Posted by SimplyModest on Jul. 07 2000,14:32
The thing about guns are, they are only needed because bad people have them..... its a big ass paradox, the best way to deal with it is to get rid of all of them. (since "control" basically means taking them out of the hands of the good people, but not the bad).

but since we cant get rid of the ones that the bad people have, we have no choice but the keep them ourselves.

Posted by Hellraiser on Jul. 07 2000,14:43
Well put SimplyModest.

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Posted by Wolfguard on Jul. 07 2000,14:54
a well armed socity is a polite socity.

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Posted by Bluu on Jul. 07 2000,20:17
I'm lazy, I let others speak for me.

"One of the ordinary modes by which tyrants accomplish their purpose
without resistance is by disarming the people and making it an offense
to keep arms."
-- Aristotle, The Politics 218, Thomas A. Sinclair translation,
Penguin Books, 1962

"Never turn your back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half. Never run away from anything. Never!"
-- Winston Churchill

"Those who would sacrifice essential liberties for a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-- Ben Franklin

"The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until
they try to take it."
-- Thomas Jefferson

And besides self-defense, don't forget the impact such weapons have on hunting and hunting traditions. I really enjoy shooting, but not to damage anything besides cardboard targets, etc.

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Posted by Wolfguard on Jul. 10 2000,13:37
As a hunter i can tell you first hand that hunting with a rifle is not a sport. When i hunt(not often anymore) i stick with a bow and arrow. It makes it more of a sport. The guns i have are just for sport/target or stopping a person.

Nothing reduces stress better for me than a case of clay pidgons and a few boxes of 12ga shot.

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Nuke em' till they glow and shoot em’ in the dark and let the computer sort em' out.
Then wait for a mutation…


Posted by Rhydant on Jul. 10 2000,18:48
Gun control is shit. i mean, just give the guy a gun and a gun lock and let him be on his way.

oh, BTW
Calibur=part of a sword
Caliber=gun measurement thingy
get it right, damnit!

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Posted by Lordbrandon on Jul. 10 2000,21:43
i have a ruger 10/22 thats in the process of being converted to bulpup (and maby select fire/supressed)ill post updates on the progress

Posted by nautilus on Jul. 10 2000,21:59
quote:
Originally posted by Wolfguard:
Nothing reduces stress better for me than a case of clay pidgons and a few boxes of 12ga shot.

Amen, going out to the range is SUCH a stress reliever. Give me the Colt 45 or the Makarov out of the gun closet and a few targets and I'll be feeling much better when I leave.

quote:
Originally posted by Rhydant:
Gun control is shit. i mean, just give the guy a gun and a gun lock and let him be on his way.

Yeah, really...my Dad used to do a bit of private gun dealing to friends & family back before the Brady Bill was passed here in the US (got out of it afterwards b/c the paperwork is ridiculous). We were raised to respect guns and know how to safely handle them. Took a women's shooting lesson/gun safety course when I turned 18, and the only reason I wasn't given a Lady S&W was that we didn't feel comfortable with me keeping a gun in my dorm room. I have issues with some of the gun control legislation (both passed bills and bills in the works) here. "Guns don't kill people; people kill people." So true.


Posted by Rhydant on Jul. 10 2000,22:06
[QUOTE]"Guns don't kill people; people kill people." [\QUOTE]

heheh, NO!

<Trinity> Neo, this isn't going to work. Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

<Neo> No Trinity. Gun's dont kill people, I kill people.

you gotta love it

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DAMNIT! why wont that UBB code work?!

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Posted by Wolfguard on Jul. 11 2000,09:45
guns dont kill people

High speed projectiles and hydrostatic shock kill people.

Gun controll is being able to hit a moving target that is returning fire.

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Posted by Observer on Jul. 11 2000,12:30
The UBB question? Use a / instead of a \ in your tag.
Posted by iso9k on Jul. 11 2000,13:56
nope...

dont own a gun

dont own a rifle

never shot a gun

never shot a rifle

No need to. I dont put myself in places where a gun in needed. And if Im in those places I get out quickly. If I was constantly in those places, I'd probably have one.

I carry enough weight on me witht the Palm, the Cell, and the Gerber tool.


Posted by Observer on Jul. 11 2000,14:02
Gerber tool?
Posted by iso9k on Jul. 11 2000,18:19
Gerber : < http://www.gerberstore.com/store/detail.lasso?-maxrecords=1&-skiprecords=2&prodCategory=Multi-Purpose\%20Tools&-sortField=prodName&fileType=Product&-search&-database=gerberstore.fp3 > &-layout=www_verticalSearch


it is like a leatherman, but better...


I'm sure many will disagree, but the flip/wrist action is super cool.


Posted by Hellraiser on Jul. 11 2000,20:56
Originally posted by Rhydant:
[QUOTE]"Guns don't kill people; people kill people." [\QUOTE]

heheh, NO!

<Trinity> Neo, this isn't going to work. Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

<Neo> No Trinity. Gun's dont kill people, I kill people.

you gotta love it

--edit
DAMNIT! why wont that UBB code work?!


gotta use a / not a \

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Posted by Lordbrandon on Jul. 18 2000,18:32
no way leathermans are way better
i lost my leatherman super tool so im using a navy seal multi tool, 'ts ok but its not my leatherman
Posted by Sithiee on Jul. 18 2000,21:46
i think gun control is a double-edged sword. on the one hand, if you keep guns under control (i.e. safetys and such) you can keep it out of dangerous places (small chillun's hands) and so in that repect, its not a bad idea. but the reason most people are all for gun control is because of shit like columbine. would gun control have kept guns out of their hands? maybe, but a better solution would be somethion like in the lost in space movie, smart controls. i believe in gun control for the right reasons, but not to prevent shit like columbine. i dont own a gun personally (can i? im only 16), and my parents dont either...unless theyve got a really really good hiding spot. but i was in the rifle club at school last year. oh jesus did i suck. there was one round where i missed every single target (with .22 rifles) but the sight was off, and i didnt think to fix it...but i agree, guns are fun, but only in the sense that its a stress reliever...same reason games are fun...this is getting fucking long...bye
Posted by Zamt on Jul. 20 2000,02:02
Guns don't kill people, it those little bullets that come out the front and smack into your soft, squishy body at a high rate of speed.
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