Topic: More crazy kids shooting up the school
started by: askheaves
1: affected with madness or insanity; "a man who had gone mad" [syn: brainsick, demented, distracted, disturbed, mad, sick, unbalanced, unhinged]
2: (informal) foolish; totally unsound; "an impractical solution"; "a crazy scheme"; "half-baked ideas"; "a screwball proposal without a prayer of working" [syn: half-baked, screwball, softheaded]
3: marked by foolish or unreasoning fondness; "she was crazy about him"; "gaga over the rock group's new album"; "he was infatuated with her" [syn: dotty, gaga, enamored, infatuated, in love, smitten, soft on(p), taken with(p)]
...sounds good to me.
Well he sure as hell went and proved them ... er ... right.
cheers
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"I looked at the kid, and he was smiling and shooting his weapon."
Smiling? Duh. I'd be grinning too if I was taking out a school.
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Shannon Durrett, a 15-year-old freshman, said she has known the boy since school began in September. He liked skateboarding and hung out with his skateboarding friends, she said. ``He was nice, he was funny, someone who would never do something like this,'' Durrett said.
Er... obviously he WAS someone who would do something like this.
Anyway, the Baby Boomers will be remembered as the generation with the worst parenting skills ever.
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This message has been edited by damien_s_lucifer on March 05, 2001 at 03:38 PM
I have an aunt who refuses to spank her kid, a 8-year brat I have the misfortune to call my cousin. (not just at this age, but all throughout his development)
This plump little bastard cries every single time he doesn't get his way - especially when it comes to ordering a double dose of food. He once even spit in his Dad's face, but his Mom refused to retaliate. When his Dad gets mad, Mommy comes to the rescue.
What's going to happen when he gets pressured by drugs and violence?
I'm not sure, but I do know that if I had spit in my Dad's face, he would have shattered my jaw. In fact, he routinely fucked my shit up every time I got out of hand.
And I love him for it.
This message has been edited by whiskey@throttle on March 05, 2001 at 03:55 PM
Other than that all I know is the California school system is pretty fuct up. That might have any relevance in this case however.
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I'm not sure, but I do know that if I had spit in my Dad's face, he would have shattered my jaw. In fact, he routinely fucked my shit up every time I got out of hand.
Um, I'm not all for violence or anything... my dad had a way of speaking very clearly, calmly, and rationally when I was in deep shit. That scared the fuck out of me 
My parents followed through on their threats... not as hardcore as turning around and going home, but enough.
Our generation might not be so great either. One of my friends is HORRIBLE at disciplining her daughter... one night, the kid absolutely would NOT go to bed... my friend tried arguing, reasoning, threats, and guilt trips to no avail. My friend finally stomped out of the room saying "honestly, I don't know what I'm going to do with you." I picked up the kicking, screaming child, and unceremoniously dumped her in her bed. She crossed her arms and said "that didn't hurt."
"Do you want it to? 'cause that be arranged," I said.
She crawled underneath the covers and said goodnight and she never wanted to see me again, and fell asleep.
And my friend was wondering how I got her to stop crying... heh... it was one of those moments when I realized I'm kind of like my dad
BTW, being a horrible lam0r, I have not figured out this thing about quoting ppl. Can someone tell me how it's done?...It sux being a newbie :-\
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Hey, any of you San Diego people... Any of you go to this school? Know anything the news doesn't? Was it one of you?
Crazy kids. Always up to no good, I tells ya.
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Originally posted by Sithiee:
i dont really wanna get into the death penalty here, but how can we possibly judge him for killing other people if we kill him? is it ok for us to kill him because he killed the other people first?
Ok, This one first.
Yes, He has shown that he is unable to be a human being and like every other critter that kills a human he needs to be put down for the safty and welfare of the rest of us.
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Originally posted by Sithiee:
at this point they know id call child abuse on them, cause im just a bastard like that, but its not an issue...
Now this one.
This is the issue.
This is exactly why this shit is happening now. Parents can not disipline their kids without going to jail. There are no consequences for their actions. No wonder you are against the death penalty. You never had to accept the consequences of your actions in the form of a beating from your parents. Why? Because the goverment says we cant beat our kids to keep them in line anymore and the kids know this.
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There has to be a certain level of fear and respect for the repercusions of your actions.
You can't expect a child to mind his parents when all that they can say is, "Stop doing that...or...I'll say stop again."
I'm not saying beating the shit out of a child is good. But sometimes, you need to have the option of spanking a child.
My father never hit me. He never had to. He just instilled a level of fear that said I could only push so far before he would hit me. I sure as hell wasn't gonna push that hard.
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"On a long enough timeline the survival rate for anyone drops to zero."
-Narrator 'Fight Club.'
It's effective in the short run to whup on a kid, and it's effects are immediately seen. Direct Causal-Effectual relationship is produced. However, that effect is short lived, and the child will reclude themself for a couple weeks. After that, they will extend back to those boundries that they know and push some more. (most of this is modern child psychology crap, with no final verdict in my mind)
I would think that the most effective way to rear a kid is to show them that there are boundries, and that there are consequences... and those consequences aren't always going to come from you. For example, a child throwing a temper tantrum. If they're old enough to understand, explain to them that the only person that is looking dumb is them. Nobody is feeling sorry for them, and that they're going to have to go sit in the car until they can behave. My dad, aparently, did that to me at a pizza place. I was being a little shit, and didn't believe that he would remove me from the resturaunt. He did, put me in the car, and went back inside to eat. He came out and got me later, and I behaved for the rest of the meal. Score one for the parents.
I don't know. I don't think the only way to discipline is through spanking. Discipline can be a fun and creative exercise. Have fun with it >:-]
Friend: The boy's mother, who is divorced from the father, lives in South Carolina. The New York Times said Linda Wells sobbed, "Oh, God. Why?" when told that her son was the suspected shooter.
Friend: Why, it couldn't have anything to do with you living on the other side of the Goddamned country, could it?
But with out that tool you can run out of options fast. Sometimes you need to swat a kid on the ass to get its attention. sometimes you need to backhand them.
Next time they will remember the swat or the backhand like they remember not to touch the hot stove.
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Originally posted by Sithiee:
if you hit them for everything they do wrong, eventually that will lose all meaning too.
yep. the threat and/or use of physical violence should only be used if it is directly connected to what they did wrong - e.g. if their behavior posed a serious threat of injury. If a kid runs out in the street after you said not to, you're damn straight the kid needs a spanking.
on the other hand, it is NOT cool to hurt your kid just because he's having a temper tantrum. there are plenty of ways to quiet a screaming child without giving in or resorting to violence. it's very similar to the way a nice person would calm down a pet... we're animals, duh. it's really too bad that parents assume their children are as manipulative and selfish as they are. kids don't have any sort of ideology, they just do what they can. if being manipulative/selfish works, that's what they'll do.
What the hell ever happened to being plain crazy!!
Jack the ripper didnt kill whores because they picked on him... He killed them cos he was ass-fisting-dog-shit-eating crazy!!
Sam
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Originally posted by askheaves:
Hey, any of you San Diego people... Any of you go to this school? Know anything the news doesn't? Was it one of you?Crazy kids. Always up to no good, I tells ya.
I dont go to school there, but I do work in Santee, about a block away from the school (Santana High).
I was at school myself when it happened, but when i got to work there was mad traffic everywhere, and our phone didn't work half the time because the lines were flooded. Sirens everywhere..
Its awful that these kids will go around shooting people randomly in the school. But on the other hand I can definately see where they're coming from. I got picked on more than my share, and depending on your personality, it can leave you feeling hopeless/worthless/etc. I can't honestly say I didn't fantasize about bringing my dad's 12 gauge to school and helping a few choice assholes meet their maker.
BUT I never did. I always knew i had a future and didn't want to fuck it up. what happens when you loose that?
The jocks and the other fuckers who pick on people should feel 100\% responsible for this. It should've been YOU.
A word of advice- When you go berzerk, don't start shooting random people. Kill the assholes who deserve it more. The jocks, the 'cool' people. The ones who make your, and many others live's literally hell. not the innocent.
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the people that shoot up schools are always the ones getting the shaft. there is a 4'9" little jewish fuck in one of my classes who doesnt stop running his mouth. he calls me pussy, gay, and many other very intelligent insults, (im 5'11" and weigh 180) i find out later that he has gone to the principal. i get called down, and i get the talk. "why are you harrassing this fine young specimen" etc. not only this, but they double team me, so i cant get a word in edgewise (asst. principal and principal) so basically, he gets the principal to make me stop talking shit, because he wont himself. this frustrates me greatly, because not only now can i not kick his ass in school ( i get like ten days out, since ive been warned) the principal notified the police, so they have documentation, so i cant kick his face in out of school either. so he sits in class and flicks me off all day, calling me pussy, asking me why i wont fight him, and then at the end of the day runs down to the principal. i am most definitely getting the shaft here, because some little fuck wont/cant stop running his mouth.
THIS is why people shoot up schools. they dont need more security measures or patrolling cops. not that i know the correct answer to this question, but i think that maybe if parents werent so blind to the fact that their kids shit DOES stink, or they need to constitute a fucking boxing ring in corner somewhere, where these kids can just wail upon eachother until one of them is a pulp of bloody brain matter.
g'day.
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This message has been edited by ic0n0 on March 07, 2001 at 08:02 PM
HOW does being Jewish immediately make someone a bitch/fuck/etc?
That's just crap, I'm sorry. What, does being Christian/atheist/Buddhist/Muslim/etc mark anyone immediately in any category?
Argh, this kind of thing pisses me off. Sorry, I just have a lot of friends of different religions, and it pisses me off to see anyone given the smackdown JUST BECAUSE OF THEIR RELIGION!
As to the school shooting, I myself have been picked on a lot, I wanted to kill the people I was picked on by in very painful ways... but there's a fine line between fantasizing and bringing a gun and shooting people who maybe never even had to do anything with one's pain.
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Originally posted by luth13n:
I myself have been picked on a lot, I wanted to kill the people I was picked on by in very painful ways...
maybe its the fact that ive lived with this kind of crap since 1st grade, but ive never felt any urge to kill someone just for picking on me. i honestly dont understand why anyone would wanna kill someone just for saying something. words dont matter. its just like the your momma jokes....anyone who gets offended by these is pretty stupid, because its not like their insulting you, their insulting your mom....eh, i dont get it...
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Originally posted by askheaves:
< http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20010305/us/school_shooting.html >
Only in USA.
Thank God I don't live there :-P
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Also I think that "eye for eye" is a more or less understandable way if retribution, but it leeds to nothing and I think that death penalty is mostly useless. Only exception would be maniacs who cilled hundreds of people, those people have no means of ever realizing that what they did was wrong and there's no point for them to live as far as i'm concerned.
About the jewish kid, do u really think his religion has anything to do with the way he behaves? I really doubt it. And if one claims that all jews are like that, then that person is a motherfuckin racist. I really hate racist people, of all the stupid and ignorant fucks those piss me off the most.
This message has been edited by kornalldaway on March 08, 2001 at 09:41 AM
Continueing on...No, if he didn't have access to a gun he would not have shot up his school. But he might have gone down to the local hardware store and bought a few items and made a bomb. Let's stop blaming inanimate objects for the actions of their possessors. I have access to guns. I am extremely accurate with them. I have owned several. I have also wanted to kill certain people that have pissed me off. I didn't, even though I had access to a gun.
For fuck's sake people, let's start putting responsibilty where it belongs. Stop trying to have other people regulate what kids have access to and start taking an active role in humanity.
Stop trying to reduce violence on television and start getting parents to take an active role in their childs lives. Stop trying to control guns and start trying to control the fuck heads that use them for the wrong reasons.
Have we become so mindless that we're willing to blame the the instrument for the musicians poor playing skills?
Goddamn, people, show a little backbone. Perhaps this kid didn't feel he was able to defend against that verbal (and possibly physical) attacks by his peers. SO FUCKING WHAT!?! We've all felt that way. It's called life. Guess what! It sucks, alot of the time. Get used to it. Firing a few round into a crowd isn't gonna change it.
Maybe, if one person in that fucking place had been willing to stand up to help him when he was being picked on and pummel the dumb shits that were doing it, this would have been avoided.
As for capital punishment, it sure as hell is a deterant. Maybe not to the next guy, but if you throw a convict into the chair and flip the switch, I guarentee he will never commit another fucking crime.
"Guns don't kill people, it's those little tiny bullets that get you."
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This message has been edited by damage on March 08, 2001 at 10:05 AM
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Originally posted by damage:
"Guns don't kill people, it's those little tiny bullets that get you."
The guns just make them go REALLY fast.
I'm impressed. Three amazing quotes in that post. And, I totally agree with you. If dad didn't own a .22, he would have found something a lot more lethal to go nuts with. Imagine 15 people shot, 13 surviving. Now imagine a pipebomb loaded with nails exploding in 'the quad' during lunch. How about a handful of throwing stars. How about electricity? How about gasoline, a match, and chain locks over the doors. A screwball will find a way to accomplish his mission. A gun is only one means.
It's not the means that cause the damage. It's the screwball who implements them. They should put this kid in 'Minimum Security' prison like they did with Dahmer.
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Originally posted by Wolfguard:
you are right, it is not the only way.But with out that tool you can run out of options fast. Sometimes you need to swat a kid on the ass to get its attention. sometimes you need to backhand them.
Next time they will remember the swat or the backhand like they remember not to touch the hot stove.
hey, wolfy... sorry to jump in the conversation late, but by 'back-hand' do you mean hitting a child in the face?
sorry, but i completely disagree.. 
if thats not what you meant, or if you were joking.. sorry..
It just doesn't end. It's good to know that there is more than one screwball in the country at any given time.
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"On a long enough timeline the survival rate for anyone drops to zero."
-Narrator 'Fight Club.'
With regard to the smaller brat, I think one can draw a parallel from one of Chris Rock's routines. He says something to the effect of, "Nothing is more dangerous than a woman who knows you ain't gonna hit her." The kid knows your hands are tied, so he feels it is his god-given right to harass you and cry to mommy when you move an inch.
I also agree with the idea that random shootings are bad. Know your target and eliminate it.
For my next point I draw from Dennis Miller. (I use comedic routines because they are a wealth of societal commentary.) Anyway, some of you may say that fighting back against those who torment would just be sinking to their level, and they win. Maybe so, but I like to think that there will be a few less of them showing up to the awards ceremony.
Anyway, I've said my piece. I'll sit back down and watch some more.
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So why do these school shootings happen? I don't know. Maybe it's because it seems that in America there is so much desentization towards violence, whether it be because of the media, or because people in general are so far removed from the reality of death, unlike other countries which are, for example, at war. This still doesn't explain relatively peaceful places like Canada though.
What I do know though is that it's kind of scary to go to school sometimes--especially with the demented emergency procedures the administration has thought up for us. Damn, I hate that.
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Let's see, childish, unreal, stupid. And I'm only 14.
That's pretty stupid. I mean I've been taunted lots and I've got that urge to kill them, but that only lasts a minute. Aside from that I just go up to the taunters face and start dissing them like theres no tomorrow. And the other thing that pisses me off is the bullies that taunt you. What is so satisfying about making someone else feel bad?!! That's just fucked up. I mean I contradict myself right there by just playing, say counterstrike. In a virtual world, I am a counter-terrorist bent on getting as many kills as possible with as little deaths as possible. But then again real life is different. If I really wanted to kill someone I'd run into the school office and tell my counsellor I need help as fast as I could.
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Originally posted by ic0n0:
This just in 9,000 people are killed the u.s every year from handguns alone. I am from the u.s and that scares the crap out me as it should any other american.
thats 3.3E-5 percent of the total population.(think i did that right)
how many die in car crashes? You going to stay out of a car too?
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This message has been edited by Wolfguard on March 09, 2001 at 06:14 AM
edit: changed should to shouldnt...very big difference...
This message has been edited by Sithiee on March 09, 2001 at 06:47 AM
i would have been suspicious if they kid said 'nothing will happen' i mean nothing implies that there is a something and happen means happen so its like..something CAN happen..if he just said he was joking then i wouldnt have been so suspicious
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Originally posted by melk0r:
you know what really kills me, is when people wonder "why did they do it?". i think this is a most foolish question. but for all of you who dont know wtf im talking about, here it is:the people that shoot up schools are always the ones getting the shaft. t
melk0r: All I can say is get a tape recorder hidden in your clothes. Make sure that you don't provoke him one little bit. When he starts harassing you, ignore him until he goes away, then take the tape (possible after making backups of it?) straight to the principal and say "What do you think of this?" That should do the trick.
Just a thought...
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This message has been edited by ic0n0 on March 11, 2001 at 06:25 AM
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Originally posted by Observer:
I also agree with the idea that random shootings are bad. Know your target and eliminate it.
how deliciously evil! seriously, i don't think that people deserve "neutralization" in these instances, but hell, if there's no way you're not going to fire off a few rounds at some people, i guess this is valid.
It was probably for the best. He was (is?) very crazy...hormonal imbalance, you know.
We used to make some pretty wicked bombs though. One time, we made one sooo big, it billowed into a gigantic mushroom cloud. I was standing about fifty yards away and still felt the thud in my chest. It put cracks in the asphalt.
Fuckin' awesome.
one: guns do not kill people. nobody dies at the will of a gun. people die because of who is using the gun. therefore, nobody has ever died 'from a handgun'. they've died from assholes with handguns.
two: less kids are killed by people with guns than drown in swimming pools. less people overall in the united states are killed by someone with a gun than are killed by mistakes made by doctors in hospitals. shooting deaths just make better ratings grabbers.
three: there is a difference between hitting a kid, and beating a kid. sometimes, they need to be hit to get their attention. it wounds their ego more than anything. i can count on one hand the number of times i was hit for something as a kid, because when i was, i learned my lesson.
four: not only do parents need to start taking charge of disciplining their kids, but they also need to cut out this shit in schools about 'if you punish my kid for being bad, i will sue you.' teachers need to regain control of classrooms.
five: i can understand why these kids snap and start killing people. i was a scrawny, buggy eyed, glasses wearing geek as a little kid. the preppies and jocks were encouraged to pick on kids like me, and ignoring it only made it worse. i took it on the chin for seven years, every day, and then picked up a chair and put a stop to it. i hit the leader-bully in the head. i didn't go so far as to kill someone, but who's to say i wouldn't have if it had continued until i was 15 or 16?
six: this has little to do with race. it has to do with pushing a human being past his breaking point with unrelenting constant abuse. hearing this kid's few friends talk about the torment he went through every day because he was 'skinny' and how they 'constantly made fun of his ears' makes me wonder a few things. where the hell are the teachers and principals? why is all this harassment by the 'beautiful people' condoned, ignored, or encouraged? and with this kind of stuff happening to those kids that are different on such a regular basis, i'm amazed there aren't *more* shootings.
i don't think he handled the situation right. i think he went too far in fighting back, but i do feel really fucking sorry for this kid. society (read: we) failed him. turned him into a killer. and that's gotta stop.
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Originally posted by ic0n0:
Your [sic] 42 times more likely to kill a friend or family member when you have only one handgun in your house.
Hm. Seems that just one handgun isn't going to do the trick, then.
Seriously, though... 42 times more likely than what? And I believe what everyone has been saying is that before there were guns, there were bombs. I guess you can take your pick between the two, but this "gun problem" is the same as the "drug problem." It needs to focus on the children. Not the guns.
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although i do agree about the parents having to accept more responsibility of their children but in general that more realates to them not being allowed to watch 18 rated films when they are 12
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Hey DKB shu'p with all that jibba jabber ya crazy foo!
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Originally posted by Dark Knight Bob:
guns dont kill people? well it seems to me that if you take away the guns then it makes it a lot harder for you to actually kill someone. sure you got knives and stuff but the fact that you say that its the people who kill people not guns ..... i dont think so i mena look at it this way kid no.1 has a stick kid no.2 has a sawnoff shotgun both have the same amount of will to kill put them up against a kid no.3 and unless no.3 has an inability to move (he has noi arms or legs) then it seems pretty damn obvious which kid is gonna find it the easiest to kill someone. i mean its pretty much a case of kid no.2 being in /god mode.
And in your little lesson at what point did the GUN make the choice to kill the person? Both armed people had the "same will to kill".
Yes, the gun makes it easier to do the job but your little rant just proved that it was not the gun doing the killing.
NEXT!
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Nobody is trying to suggest that guns are sentient entities trying to kill people. That's obviously crazy. What gun control advocates (like myself) for the most part are saying is that if you're going to own a gun, be responsible with it and lock the motherfucker up! Guns (like cars) should be registered, and not everyone should be able to operate them! (Especially in public areas) It's fine if you want to own a lethal weapon, but just because the constitution grants you the right to do so doesn't mean you should be able to buy and sell them anonymously, carry them around everywhere, or otherwise behave irresponsibly with them.
As far as self-defense goes...maybe. I have a hunch that if you compiled all the incidents where some kid blew his or his friend's brains out with daddy's gun by accident, and the incidents where someone successfully defended their home and family from an armed intruder, the former would far outnumber the latter.
The people in this group were fun, nice people, but were a little weird. Most drove pickup trucks, and I believe they were the only dozen people in Tucson with southern accents. Odd. They started a conversation about carrying. One guy keeps his in a holster at his side, uncovered and clearly visible, and so does his wife. He's proud of it. He takes it everywhere. Some of the others do the same, but stay a bit more inconspicuous. I don't think I could carry a gun into a McDonalds or Pizza hut.
What I do appreciate about these folks is the incredible care taken to keep accidents from happening. Guns are unloaded when walking around. Breaches are open for inspection. Ear and eye protection. When the round is over, the clip must be ejected, the live round ejected, and the action open for inspection before the range becomes clear to reset.
The scariest people are those who buy guns because they are paranoid about getting robbed, or whatever (even though the most expensive thing in the house is the gun), but they don't take it out and practice shooting and safety procedures. It sits in a drawer, loaded and chambered, safety off, right next to the inhaler. Their kids know they have a gun, they don't know safety, whatever. Those are the household accident cases.
As for this kid, he went shooting with his dad a lot, and his dad kept the guns locked up. Kid knew how to get to them. And who would blame the dad on the gun issue? He's doing a hell of a lot better than most gun owning parents. I wouldn't suspect my 15 year old kid would go into the cabinet and bring a gun to school... unless I knew that he had a problem recognizing consequences... and who's fault is that?
and we armed to the teeth
we're all working together now
to make our lives mercifully brief
schoolkids keep trying to teach us
what guns are all about
confuse liberty with weaponry
and watch your kids act it out
every year now like christmas
some boy gets the milkfed suburban blues
reaches for the available arsenal
and saunters off to make the news
and the women in the middle
arelearning what poor women have always known
that the edge is closer than you think
whe your men bring the guns home
look at where the profits are
that's how you'll find the source
of the big lie that you and i
both know so well
in the time it take this cultural
death with to run its course
they're gonna make a pretty penny
and then they're all going ot hell
he said the chickens all come home to roost
yeah malcolm forecasted this flood
are we really gonna sleep through another century
while the rich profit off our blood?
true it may take some doing
to see this undoing through
but in my humble opinion
here's what i suggest we do
open fire on hollywood
open fire on MTV
open fire on NBC
and CBS and ABC
open fire on the NRA
and all the lies they told us
along the way
open fire on each weapons manufacturer
while he's giving head
to some republican senator
and if i hear one more time
about a fool's right
to his tools of rage
i'm gonna take all my friends
and i'm gonna move to canada
and we're gonna die of old age
I dig Ani
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Hey DKB shu'p with all that jibba jabber ya crazy foo!