Forum: The Classroom
Topic: Hitting Close to Home....
started by: caseman984

Posted by caseman984 on Oct. 02 2001,20:30
My good friend online and IRL, SocketSecured, has just had his computer confiscated by the feds. He has been charged with possesion of underaged pornography. The amount of Warez he has on his computer could get him into a LOT of deep shit. His computer also contains records of conversations with myself and my other friends, and all of our contact information, so its probley not too long until I am questioned and/or my house/computer searched.

It goes without saying that these happenings have scared the crap out of me. Plus its probably really screwed my friend's life up (although he is somewhat in the clear, he's only 17). I really don't know what to do from here.. all I can hope is that Donald will be judged fairly.

*sigh*

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Originally posted by Tattered:
Caseman's kewl, he sometimes makes good posts based on small observations.

Posted by incubus on Oct. 02 2001,21:01
Hmm. Depends. The authoritaa tend only to track people who are big players in "underage pr0n0graphy". To be honest they may just give him a slap on the wrist (they were looking for bigger fish), or your friend is a child pr0n_dealer, in which case he needs forcefeedin' his own bawls.

Ahem.


Posted by caseman984 on Oct. 02 2001,22:18
He is not a big dealer, he just had a large amount of pornography on his computer. I fail to see anything morally wrong with anyone looking at girls his age or close to (the youngest I saw on there was 14, and that was 2 years ago, when he was 15, so..). But the gov't is very picky about such things. I do object to the making of underage pornography in a violent manner, or of statutory rape, or of anyone pre-teen.

I'll probley the the SHIT flamed out of me for it, but I think two people should be allowed to have whatever sex they want to , when they want to. I realize their are alot of circumstances in which it can be damaging, but thats true for any age range. I really think that the whole idea of making a beautiful thing such as sex completely illegal under certin circumstances is a generally grey area. Why is 18 such a magic number anyway? What happens at that time that makes you able to decide that you are ready to have sex? Some people are truely ready, mentally, emotionally, and physically, at younger ages to have sex. And there are people much older that are not.

I think one of the main reasons I'm so adament about this is my girlfriend is turning 18 in January. It will be illegal for her and I to have any *ahem* fun. She and I are in a loving relationship, why is it illegal for us to express that love? This seems somehow wrong to me.

This is not an argument, in any way, for making, distributing, selling, ect., Child pornography; I'm just trying to show that not everything is black and white.

Edit: Above comment, about not seeing anything morally wrong with it... There are obviously issues with anyone owning that much pornography (4 gigs last count) but thats an entirely different area, especially with him.
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quote:
Originally posted by Tattered:
Caseman's kewl, he sometimes makes good posts based on small observations.

This message has been edited by caseman984 on October 03, 2001 at 05:21 PM


Posted by CatKnight on Oct. 02 2001,22:22
i could answer all your questions but for now im just going to point out the obvious one. there is nothing wrong with a 15 year old watching pre-teen porn per se, but the fact that 30-40 year old men lure 14 year old girls into doing 'stuff' is what is horribly wrong and very illegal.

also in most states there is a buffer zone so a guy who just turns 18 wont be thrown in jail for having sex with his 17 year old girlfriend. i think the buffer zone is actually 4 years but it might depend on what state.

This message has been edited by CatKnight on October 03, 2001 at 05:24 PM


Posted by caseman984 on Oct. 02 2001,22:24
quote:
Originally posted by CatKnight:
i could answer all your questions but for now im just going to point out the obvious one. there is nothing wrong with a 15 year old watching pre-teen porn per se, but the fact that 30-40 year old men lure 14 year old girls into doing 'stuff' is what is horribly wrong and very illegal.


agreed

Edit: Good God, I'm such a lam0r...

"and posting 'me too!' like some braindead AOLer"

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quote:
Originally posted by Tattered:
Caseman's kewl, he sometimes makes good posts based on small observations.

This message has been edited by caseman984 on October 03, 2001 at 05:28 PM


Posted by damien_s_lucifer on Oct. 03 2001,03:53
I hope you've already done this, but I think it needs to be said...

burn everything that's important to you to CD.

take that and any pirate CDs you may have and store them in a safe place. DO NOT mail them. DO NOT give them to a hax0r friend for safekeeping. Stick them in a box, tape it up, label it "Memories" or something stupid like that. Stash it where NO ONE will ever think of looking. Tell NO ONE what you've done, or where it is.

No matter what they threaten and/or promise, DO NOT ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS WITHOUT A LAWYER PRESENT!!!! Believe me, if they are serious about their promises then they won't mind you having a lawyer around.

format your hard drive.

format it again.

install Windows.

Copy your Windows directory over and over until your hard drive is full.

Now format your drive again. Repeat until paranoia subsides.


Posted by Rhydant on Oct. 03 2001,04:14
or you could just take out the hard drive, disassemble it, and turn it into a money-storage device.
tahts what i did.

but really, 4 gigs? tahts way to much porn.

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Posted by Dark Knight Bob on Oct. 03 2001,08:14
quote:
Originally posted by CatKnight:

also in most states there is a buffer zone so a guy who just turns 18 wont be thrown in jail for having sex with his 17 year old girlfriend. i think the buffer zone is actually 4 years but it might depend on what state.

in amsterdam its leagl to have sex from the age of 12 but onnly if the other person is 16 or under as well to avoid peadophilia. then from 16 its one big free for all

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simultaneity is not absolute. So just because you think i'm wrong, from my frame of reference i'm right!


Posted by Dark Knight Bob on Oct. 03 2001,08:17
quote:
Originally posted by damien_s_lucifer:

format your hard drive.

format it again.

install Windows.

Copy your Windows directory over and over until your hard drive is full.

Now format your drive again. Repeat until paranoia subsides.


or just format and defrag

if all else fails a big fuck off magnet should set ur mind at ease

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simultaneity is not absolute. So just because you think i'm wrong, from my frame of reference i'm right!


Posted by C_Puppy on Oct. 03 2001,12:07
quote:
Originally posted by Rhydant:
or you could just take out the hard drive, disassemble it, and turn it into a money-storage device.
tahts what i did.

but really, 4 gigs? tahts way to much porn.


Hey, I have a girlfriend have sex frequently, but I still love the pr0n, I have about 3 gigs.... albeit that most of it is Vivid videos with jenna jamison, asia, or tera patrick--- better than paying for a penthouse or 20 bucks for the actual video. So 4 gigs isn't bad as long as it isn't all pictures-- now that is alot of pictures!

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Posted by Hellraiser on Oct. 03 2001,21:51
I dunno, I got maybe about 10 or so gigs, but could easily replace it all in a week or two. I don't keep any of my pr0n on my hdd, it takes too much space. CD's man, CD's!

For abundant source of such material, get a newsreader, about 900,000 newsgroups or so devoted to "erotica," there's something for everyone's tastes, even mine . Just look for the ones with lots of posts, then look in those for your personal needs.

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Posted by whiskey@throttle on Oct. 03 2001,22:19
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Originally posted by caseman984:

I think one of the main reasons I'm so adament about this is my girlfriend is turning 18 in January. It will be illegal for her and I to have any *ahem* fun.

I don't think you need to worry about statutory rape laws. Who's going to know besides you and her? Don't screw in public places, wear a hat, and you're fine.



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