and also, the canadian army the best in the world? Surely you jest my friend. If you really believe that then I would say that is nationalism going a little to far, and your putting your faith in an institution that would get put down in a couple seconds if it ever faced the U.S. army.

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When my flying days are over, and my death has come to pass
I hope they bury me upside down, so the whole damn world can kiss my ass

Having the best army in the world (though debateable) is one thing. Having the biggest bastards of a military force is a totally different story. How many ground troops did we use in Kosovo? None until they agreed to let the UN in for peacekeeping.

"Hey Abdul!"
"What's up, my man?"
"RUN FOR YOU LIFE! THE CANADIANS ARE COMING!"
"BWAH HAH HAH HAH HAH *snort* hee hee hee" (wipes tears out of eyes, etc.)

and about being a cheap army, you are wrong. i would hate to see you as a miltary commander. youd prolly do something like "oh, well carpet bombing is an unfair tactic, because they couldnt fight us back, lets send in 700,000 men, and hope none get killed!" when we bomb places its so that we dont lose people that we dont have to. but maybe you dont value human life, i dunno.

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Originally posted by Sithiee:
US waged war on the persian gulf and had a total of like 9 casualties, and that was because we accidently took out one of our own coptors...

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I was in the Marine Corps during that period. You are very misinformed.

There were many operations that went on durning that time period, and only part of the time were we actually 'AT WAR'.

There were casualties before the war started, during, and after, and there are still people suffering from experimental drugs given to the Armed Services personal to 'protect' them from chemical weapons.

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jim
Beauty is in the eye of the Beer Holder
< Brews and Cues >

well, i forgot all the jokes... but... the US does have a supa advanced air defense system. ever heard of NORAD? its in that big ass mountain in colorado springs.

then theres the fact that we have jets taking off and landing every 20 minutes to make pratrols about places like washington and other important places. so there fore, w3 0wnz j00 canada.

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You're right about the NORAD deal, though. We have excellant control over our airspace. Good luck getting in!

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"It's not peer pressure, its just your turn." - Unknown

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Originally posted by askheaves:
The thing about the US ever fighting Canada. Even if their soldiers could kill at a 20:1 ratio, we wouldn't be sending 700,000 troops to walk to Canada and start fighting. We'd be total bastards and would bomb all sorts of useful things to Canada. I don't think Canada has any major Air defenses (like the US). Pretty quickly, Canada would be unable to support its super 1337 forces, and they would give up.

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Correction, you'd try to bomb all sorts of useful things to Canada, but like many other people, I've read the report into the USAF bombings in Kosovo, you know the ones, the ones where only around 110 of the 1000+ bombs dropped actually hit within a 50 metre radius of their specified targets.

Hell, from what I hear, you dont even get more than 2 people in a 50 metre radius in Canada

Whoo... Canada jokes never get old!

Or maybe it's this 36 hours without sleep thing that's making this so funny. *shrug*

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We fart on your country!

Sure, our Military is old, poor, and pathetic... who gives a damn?

If any military or government were stupid enough to 'invade' Canada, you guys (US) would be up here in a snap. Why? Because we are allies. :P

and all this USA 'invading' Canada rot... *sigh*
it's just stupid, don't waste your time ;P

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This message has been edited by DrunkNigel on September 26, 2000 at 07:53 PM

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They have cats in the future?

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Originally posted by Sithiee:
Jim, what were the actual death tolls for the US in Persian Gulf?

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-marcc
< lmao.cjb.net - funny pictures >.

Seriously, though, we should just ANNEX Canada. You guys would barely notice except you'd start spelling things like "armor" correctly. And while we're at it, we should annex Mexico. Mmm... tacos...

anyway let's make the United States of America include the whole damn continent. Manifest Destiny has only been partially fulfilled. That makes me mad. Let's get up off our asses and DO something about it!

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Originally posted by Rhydant:
ok, my turn to make fun of Canadia!!!

well, i forgot all the jokes... but... the US does have a supa advanced air defense system. ever heard of NORAD? its in that big ass mountain in colorado springs.

then theres the fact that we have jets taking off and landing every 20 minutes to make pratrols about places like washington and other important places. so there fore, w3 0wnz j00 canada.

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Maybe if you knew what you were talking about you'd know that the fist part of NORAD means North American, Not United Sates. Canada is a big part of that too - ever heard of Alert? Look it up.

And yes, the Avro Arrow kicked major ass. A lot of the ppl that worked on that now work for NASA and helped design the space shuttle.

Ha! That's the most hilarious line from the entire South Park movie.

But just to show that I learned nothing about sensless scapegoating and bigotry, I have forecasted the bout between US and Canada.

Day #

1. Canada, having absolutely no strategic military intelligence on the US, rents Independence Day to design an attack plan. After realizing the infeasibility of building large flying saucers, they head for New York in their American planes.
   
2. The Canadians bomb Buffalo, NY, shocking the entire United States. Feeling ambitious, they then head for New York City, only to be intercepted by the enitre US Atlantic fleet. Somewhere over Connecticut, after a long retreat, the Canadian Air Force is annihilated by the same pilots that taught them how to fly their aging F/A-18s.
   
3. In a flurry of shadows, 80 stealth bombers and fighters wipe Toronto off the map, leaving the Canadians dazed and devoid of morale.
   
4. The slaughter comes back to bite American citizens in the ass, as "Kids in the Hall" reruns are cancelled from Comedy Central, leaving us with only Colin Quinn and the worst Weekend Update in SNL history.
   
5. Candian hockey players are put into death camps.
   

"Did I say death camps? I meant happy camps..." ...South Park rules.

p.s. Don't take me seriously, I love Canada

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Originally posted by Sithiee:
Jim, what were the actual death tolls for the US in Persian Gulf?

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Gulf War:
August 2, 1990 - April 6, 1991
Total who served in all Armed Forces: 2,046,806
Total who served in the theater of operation: 665,476

Combat Deaths: 147
Wounded: 457
Medals of Honor: 0

Note that the 147 is COMBAT Deaths.

Also note, that of the 665,476 people serving in the Gulf War, approx. 100,000 have registered with the VA with health concerns. Of these 100,000 approx 15,000 have the exact same symptoms. Which is now commonly reffered to as Gulf War Syndrome.

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Beauty is in the eye of the Beer Holder
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kuru
'if your children ever found out how lame you are, they'd kill you in your sleep.' -frank zappa

anyone see that thing in popular science a little while ago? about the soldier of the future? if we actually get that working right, i think our army will be supreme...until it gets on the black market anyway...

Now, what this says for our opposition is a whole different story...

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Originally posted by Keeps:
Popular Science has those at least once a year. I just want Starship Troopers soldiers. The real Starship Troopers, not that movie.

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DAMN! That would be hella cool.

And he's talking about THE BOOK, not the movie. Think of the game Heavy Gear 2, just a bit smaller. :P

Do yourself a favor and go read the book;
Starship Troopers by Robert A. Heinlein

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"If it doesn't work, hit it with a hammer."

Heck NO, blame Canada
Blame Canada
With all their beady little eyes
And flapping heads so full of lies
Blame Canada
Blame Canada
need to form a full assault
It's Canada's fault!

Don't blame me
For my son Stan
He saw the darn cartoon
And now he's off to join the clan!

And my boy Eric once
Had my picture on his shelf
But now when I see him he tells me to fuck myself!
Well, blame Canada
Blame Canada
It seems that everything's gone wrong
Since Canada came along
Blame Canada
Blame Canada
There not even a real country anyway

My son could've been a doctor or a lawyer it's true
Instead he burned up like a piggy on a bar-b-q
Should we blame the matches?
Should we blame the fire?
Or the doctors who allowed him to expire?
Heck no!

Blame Canada
Blame Canada
With all their hockey hubabaloo
And that bitch Anne Murray too
Blame Canada
Shame on Canada
The smut we must stop
The trash we must smash
Laughter and fun
must all be undone
We must blame them and cause a fuss
Before someone thinks of blaming us

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This message has been edited by Rhydant on September 28, 2000 at 06:17 PM

the two most telling lines out of the whole song. it's a cute, funny song... but it's got one hell of a serious powerful message in it.

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kuru
'if your children ever found out how lame you are, they'd kill you in your sleep.' -frank zappa

and we don't need those damn subs with nukes, we would use the long range silo nukes (don't remember what they are called IMHO maybe?/something like that)

And I think that figure of 81 that someone posted came from a Bill Hicks routine.

"You mean we could have just sent 82 guys over there and we could have won?" --Bill Hicks

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A good programmer is someone who looks both ways on a one-way street

it's messy, but it's peace.

as for the usa and canada, NORAD is a joint effort. the border between the usa and canada is the longest undefended national border anywhere in the world. from the coast of maine to the coast of washington, there's not a single fort along the border. seems to me like that's somethin to be proud of.

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kuru
'if your children ever found out how lame you are, they'd kill you in your sleep.' -frank zappa

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Originally posted by kuru:
mutually assured destruction isn't a new concept, and sometimes it's the only thing that keeps a war from happening.

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Yup. Hence, the whole friggin cold war.
At other times, I'd go so far as to the fear of loss or destruction is the only thing that keeps one country from attacking another.

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from the coast of maine to the coast of washington, there's not a single fort along the border. seems to me like that's somethin to be proud of.

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Or perhaps...afraid of...
(insert scary canadian music here)

Or something

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I never let my schooling get in the way of my education - Mark Twain

As for ICBM's, they are only of value with regard to an opponent who has similar weapons and a desire to survive. If my religion says that the ultimate aim in life is to make it to paradise and to do so I must destroy the infidel with a small nuke strapped to my back, then I'll be running through Washington yelling 'Praise God' and pushing small buttons. If the collective nation behind such an action doesn't mind being sacrificed in the name of their beliefs if it helps destroy the enemy oftheir beliefs, then such a policy nullifies the threat of ICBMs. Also, let's not forget that most (if not all) have been decommissioned. That's why the US needs subs with cruise missiles.