Forum: The Classroom
Topic: umm...okay, this is scary.
started by: whiskey@throttle

Posted by whiskey@throttle on Sep. 10 2001,22:18

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Posted by Dark Knight Bob on Sep. 10 2001,22:24
so one guy takcs onto the nostrodamus thing. this guy is already a nutcase so goes along when he finds out hes right cod he thinks he's special. just some idiot who got lucky/unlucky

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simultaneity is not absolute. So just because you think i'm wrong, from my frame of reference i'm right!

This message has been edited by Dark Knight Bob on September 11, 2001 at 05:30 PM


Posted by EvilGenius on Sep. 10 2001,22:25
*laughing so hard i fell out of my chair*

ladies and gentlemen, this is some seriously messed up shit. i encourage all of you to take a second, and get a good laugh from this one.

as far a s a response to it, i'm a christian in most ways, although not denying my hypocrisies, and sure you can say satan was apart of it, but damning everyone and everything surely isn't going to get a Godly point across, yeesh. the nation does however need to pray for the families, and for the nation as a whole as to how to react.


Posted by whiskey@throttle on Sep. 10 2001,22:27
yeah, it's pretty bizarre all around. I don't know what to think about that.
Posted by shifter on Sep. 11 2001,00:10
whoah -- freaky
Posted by miNus on Sep. 11 2001,00:19
Isn't there more wierd stuff about "9" and "11" too?

Like isn't 9:111 the verse from the qur'an where it talks about killing Allah's enemies or something?
Date 9/11 flight 11 = 9:111?

Dunno, it's all still very surreal, like a movie. I still can't believe that the twin towers of the world trade center "the symbols of capitalism", are just GONE.

On a side note, did anyone ever see "The Seige"? Wierd, eh?


Posted by Michael on Sep. 11 2001,00:41
Xinoehpoel is "leo phoenix" backwards, if you count the oe dipthong as one letter. His email is also backwards: tesnal@psl.moc -> lanset@lsp.com. But that's the farthest I could track down info on the guy, perhaps a few of you could take a look and do some searches too, but I have to go find out how my g/f is doing so I don't have time for such searches at the moment... Not that any of us can do much, but it would be nice to know who that guy is.
Posted by Hellraiser on Sep. 11 2001,01:02
This whole thing is unreal. I'm not sure what is real and whats not any more. Maybe I should get some sleep and let it sink in.

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Posted by SLATE on Sep. 11 2001,01:33
I actually submitted those links above to the FBI. Hopefully they can do something with those links...

SLATE


Posted by Nikita on Sep. 11 2001,03:18
I was thinking about submitting them too, but I couldn't get through to the fbi page for some odd reason ....
Posted by j0eSmith on Sep. 11 2001,03:38
Probably because you were on the wrong side of the WTC Hub. I've been having problems accessing east coast sites as well.

SLATE on the other hand, can get there without going through that hub.


Posted by SLATE on Sep. 11 2001,15:18
show me this picture

slate@detonate.net


Posted by just_dave on Sep. 11 2001,16:33
I would like to see it also
tital.dave@verizon.net
Posted by Nikita on Sep. 11 2001,16:36
hell just post it ...

no wait ... that's probably a bad idea ... is it?


Posted by aventari on Sep. 11 2001,16:49
i dont see why. please post it michael

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Posted by Michael on Sep. 11 2001,17:00
quote:
Originally posted by miNus:
Like isn't 9:111 the verse from the qur'an where it talks about killing Allah's enemies or something?
Date 9/11 flight 11 = 9:111?

Book 9 verse 111 of the Koran refers to a building opposing Islam that will keep people from believing in Allah unless "their hearts are cut to pieces." Or something like that. I looked it up in the library earlier today. But that could just be a coincidence.

As for the person who wrote those "prophecies," I haven't been able to get a 100\% certain identity fix but it appears to be a high school student with no involvement whatsoever. One viewpoint would be to say that his "prediction" is just a coincidence.

The other viewpoint (which some of you agnostic types won't agree with) would be that the kid could have been demon-possessed. There's plenty of precedent for that; the Bible includes at least one example of someone predicting the future through not through God but through demonic means. (Acts 16:16)

Speaking of which, there's a picture sitting on my hard drive right now that shows a city lying in ruins, a twin tower in the background with a large chunk taken out of it, and smoke everywhere. A picture which I drew two and a half days before the attack happened. How's that for wierd? Again, it may be just coincidence... or there may be more going on in all of this than meets the eye...


Posted by Michael on Sep. 11 2001,19:25
Doesn't posting a picture require that it already be up on the net somewhere? I don't see an "attach file" option here. If one of you has webspace somewhere I could send the picture to them, I suppose...

Incidentally, I've met several people online (on a different forum) who also had some sort of premonition of this. Admittedly there are non-supernatural explanations for why that might be (ie pure coincidence), but it is still rather interesting.

And thanks for welcoming me back, incubus. I believe it was Nostradamus who first prophecied that when times are like these, Michael would return to the Detnet forum... <grin>


Posted by cr0bar on Sep. 11 2001,22:14
If you email it to me I'll post it
Posted by Dark Knight Bob on Sep. 11 2001,22:27
2 days before the kursk sank to its watery grave i dreamt i was in my garden centre ( where i worked at the time) and suddenly i heard someone say somethign about a torpedo and then water flooded in everywhere and then i was quite literally swimming through dead bodies to get to the surface.(then somethign about elephants attacking us) the dream then went onto some sort of pirate scene next but thats not important. i didnt put two and two together at first cos i wasnt watchign the news properly but shit if this isnt the first time this has happened to me. i cant rememebr each individual time its happpened but i always remember remembering having dreams about events happening a few days later.

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simultaneity is not absolute. So just because you think i'm wrong, from my frame of reference i'm right!


Posted by StanVanDam on Sep. 11 2001,23:09
Whoa DKB. That happened to me before the TWA flight that crashed in the Pacific. I dreamt that an big airplane crashed in the middle of the water for some reason. A few days later it happened. Very freaky. I didn't get any premonitions this time, probably cuz I didn't get any decent amount of sleep like I used to.
Posted by cr0bar on Sep. 11 2001,23:32

Posted by solid on Sep. 11 2001,23:37
The pic is sort of depressing due to the grayscale thing, good job...
I know real people died and everything, but this would definately make a very amusing CS or (more preferrably) UT map.
Posted by miNus on Sep. 11 2001,23:41
There's neither a time, nor a place for posts like that solid. Keep it to yourself.
Posted by Dark Knight Bob on Sep. 11 2001,23:42
well a CS pic and a UT pic have already been posted. seems a lot of people (me included as i made the UT one) cant help nut relate to it. its like looking at horrific pictures u dont like to look but your brain makes u. no one likes ot imagine people actually playing maps about this ting but the thought still pops in there

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simultaneity is not absolute. So just because you think i'm wrong, from my frame of reference i'm right!


Posted by caseman984 on Sep. 11 2001,23:48
I believe myself to be very sensative to "energies" if you will, of my surroudings. Precedeing this attack, I had been unnaturally restless, something was bugging me and I could not figure out what. Now that everything has happend, I see that it may have been some sort of premonition.

On that note, I think it is important for everyone to be very aware of themselves and how they are relating to the people around them. There is a air of fear and anger everywhere around us, try not to let it effect you too much. Just keep your head clear as best you can. And God bless.


edit: I REALLY need to take more English classes
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quote:
Originally posted by Tattered:
Caseman's kewl, he sometimes makes good posts based on small observations.

This message has been edited by caseman984 on September 12, 2001 at 06:49 PM


Posted by StanVanDam on Sep. 12 2001,00:32
Monday night was very warm here. I was quite restless and couldn't get to sleep in my room which is upstairs. I got out at 11pm and moved to the bed in the basement, where my basement is like 10 degrees colder than my upstairs. Anyway, all throughout the night, I couldn't sleep well at all the entire, I had the sleeping bag wrapped all around me and I woke up around 2-6am soaked in sweat. Still couldn't sleep after that. I dunno if that means anything, but I swear I was really screwy that nite.
Posted by Dark Knight Bob on Sep. 12 2001,00:45
quote:
Originally posted by caseman984:

Just keep your head clear as best you can.


this is me keeping a clear head

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simultaneity is not absolute. So just because you think i'm wrong, from my frame of reference i'm right!


Posted by Michael on Sep. 12 2001,04:59
Well, that's the picture that I mentioned, up above. As you can see, it's eerily similar to some of the scenes that we saw, but not so close to being identical that it couldn't just be a coincidence. But if it isn't a coincidence, I'm obligated by this thing called the "parable of the watchman" (Ezekiel 33) to tell you the message that went along with the picture. You probably won't like it, but I'm not forcing you to read this.

The basic message is: this picture represents the state that our country is in spiritually. And the only way to heal our land is for our country as a whole to turn back to God. (2 Chronicles 7:14).

To elaborate on that, and to perhaps also answer how it could be that many of you may have sensed this coming:

There is a war being fought, that has been going on for millenia. A struggle "not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms." (Ephesians 6:12) And humanity is the battleground.

(In that sense, then, it is not surprising that if something serious were happening in the invisible, spiritual realm, that many people would pick up on at least a hint of it. Similarly, it would make perfect sense that this Nostradamus kid had been told by a demon what was going to happen.)

And more and more, the US has been losing that war. There has never been a foreign invasion of American soil, they say, and yet day by day an invisible war is fought between the secular forces in this country and the religious ones. And the result of our losing this struggle is that people become "lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God-- having a form of godliness but denying its power."

For our country, our chief form of idolatry has been the love of money; everyone else in the world sees us as being uncaringly, excessively wealthy, at least our nation as a whole. In a sense, the WTC could be seen as a temple built to glorify our own wealth. And in that sense, the same words that Solomon spoke about the temple in Jerusalem apply here:

"And though this temple is now so imposing, all who pass by will be appalled and say, `Why has the LORD done such a thing to this land and to this temple?' People will answer, 'Because they have forsaken the LORD, the God of their fathers, who brought them out of Egypt, and have embraced other gods, worshiping and serving them--that is why he brought all this disaster on them.'" 2 Chronicles 7:21-22

In that sense, this could be a sort of wake-up call, a warning. Because when Solomon warns of the disaster that could befall a land which forsakes God, he also gives the solution: "if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land." 2 Chronicles 7:14

I know that this all sounds rather mythological and perhaps even fanatical, but I believe that it's the truth. All I'm really trying to say here is that right now, many people are lost, searching for meaning and wondering what is true and what they can trust, many people are asking questions - and I believe that God has the answers.


Posted by incubus on Sep. 12 2001,05:45
But either way, wb Michael...

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Posted by Vigilante on Sep. 12 2001,17:17
Then God can get his holy ass down here and start digging through rubble alongside the men that we owe true admiration.

This message has been edited by Vigilante on September 13, 2001 at 12:18 AM


Posted by aventari on Sep. 12 2001,22:15
Amen, Vigilante
Posted by aventari on Sep. 12 2001,22:16
Amen, Vigilante
Posted by aventari on Sep. 12 2001,22:16
Amen, Vigilante
Posted by aventari on Sep. 12 2001,22:16
Amen, Vigilante
Posted by DuSTman on Sep. 12 2001,22:54
Ok, one more "This-is-surely-a-coincidence" thing for you.

Type NYC in arial font.

Change it to webdings font, then to wingdings.


Posted by Dark Knight Bob on Sep. 12 2001,23:00
shit so it was bill gates who funded this? some how he must think that his shares will sky rocket from this.

sorry if that offended anyone.

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Posted by Observer on Sep. 12 2001,23:14
That second one was pointed out years ago. Stirred up quite a controversy at the time, but obviously the people in charge didn't think it was important enough to change.

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Posted by damien_s_lucifer on Sep. 13 2001,00:30
WingDings is a very old font. It's been around since Windows 3.1, if not earlier. I doubt the "Death to Jews - RIGHT ON!" thing was intentional...

...but I have a feeling the Webding vewrsion ("I Love New York") was, 'cause that font didn't come out until 1997 or so. Plenty of time for the font designers to catch wind of the original Wingdings thing, and plant an Easter Egg.


Posted by Michael on Sep. 13 2001,19:07
quote:
Originally posted by Vigilante:
Then God can get his holy ass down here...

Believe me, He will. Maybe sooner than we think.


Posted by solid on Sep. 13 2001,19:33
... This is slowly becoming too much for me to believe it's just a coincidence. Maybe just the sour humor of life or god or something.

Or not even god? Satan!

This message has been edited by solid on September 14, 2001 at 02:33 PM


Posted by whiskey@throttle on Sep. 14 2001,05:53
quote:

quote:
shit so it was bill gates who funded this? some how he must think that his shares will sky rocket from this.


Ich habe keine idee darüber diese liegen sie sprechen!

This message has been edited by whiskey@throttle on September 14, 2001 at 12:57 PM


Posted by whiskey@throttle on Sep. 16 2001,15:04
Oh, it gets better:

  • The date of the attack: 9/11 - 9 + 1 + 1 = 11
  • September 11th is the 254th day of the year: 2 + 5 + 4 = 11
  • After September 11th there are 111 days left to the end of the year.
  • 119 is the area code to Iraq/Iran. 1 + 1 + 9 = 11
  • Twin Towers - standing side by side, looks like the number 11
  • The first plane to hit the towers was Flight 11
  • State of New York - The 11th State added to the Union
  • New York City - 11 Letters
  • Afghanistan - 11 Letters
  • The Pentagon - 11 Letters
  • George W. Bush - 11 Letters
  • Ramzi Yousef - 11 Letters (convicted of orchestrating the attack on the WTC in 1993)
  • Flight 11 - 92 on board - 9 + 2 = 11
  • Flight 77 - 65 on board - 6 + 5 = 11
  • Number 11 - the number that caused me to loose 赨 playing craps in Vegas last month


It is my belief that we should carpet bomb the number 11 and then impose economic sanctions on it.

This message has been edited by whiskey@throttle on September 17, 2001 at 10:09 AM


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