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why is it that 90% of philosphy "Debates" amount to nothing more than people saying "I'm right," or "Nuh-uh, I'm right, you're wrong." Or, arguments over the definition of the words someone uses in presenting their ideas? It's goddamn annoying, it's like "you stupid fucks, maybe if you'd just fucking ask them what they're saying if you aren't sure we could actually have a discussion." GAH....
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Quote (veistran @ 15 May 2002,00:23)
why is it that 90% of philosphy "Debates" amount to nothing more than people saying "I'm right," or "Nuh-uh, I'm right, you're wrong."

No they're not  :p

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Well then start a philosophical conversation that we can discuss rather than merely complaining that such intellectual discussions do not occur.

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that would be off-topic.

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I meant for a different thread.....sheesh

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philosophy (n.)
1. the love of wisdom.
2. a way for people to pretend they're capable of thinking.
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3. a personal belief (of how things work or how actions should be taken) : as in "my personal philosophy is..."

Edited by Mhoraigh on Jan. 01 1970,01:00

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I do not pretend to know what is right or wrong, but I do try to live by society standards as most of the time that is in my best interest.

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DSL has got it.
If you listen to what most of these people are actually saying, you will discover that it there is no real content, but rather just a string of words that sound good together (not like this post at all...).  So the reason they cant have a debate is because there is no substance to debate about. Man PHIL 100 sucks balls..... how come there are no vomiting smilies?

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My roomate Scott would disagree.  Philosophy is about discussion, and finding truth.  It's a lot more complicated and hard than anyone would guess.  Sure, we've gotten into arguements that didn't have substance, but that was because our definitions of certain words were different, and so we misunderstood.  For example, I used the word voluntary (any choice, circumstances nonwithstanding) when I meant to say elective (because of the will of an individual, without any coersion from others)  Due to this, we got in an hour long arguement.  Had I known how to use the philosophical argumentative system, and used a more correct definition, we would not have talked for an hour about nothing.  Philosophy is not casual, it can be very serious and important.

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