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Lisp is a crock of shite.

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You pussy.

LISP brought us garbage collection... the haven for bad programmers. Be happy, and move onto something like Java.

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I want to learn Smalltalk. It looks supersexy I also want to learn C# as well. I have the beta, I'm just too lazy.
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Come on now there is no better language then assembler, and it is different for every processor so you can always learn more. Remember that alot of the 4GL languages have there drawbacks. Like very little controll. I prefer C or C++, solely for the control perspective. I have on ocasion done java, and Progress; however, C has never failed me. Microsoft's c# is just another borg-like move for Mr Gates. I think he is hurt because no one wants to code VB anymore.
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NOONE WANTS TO CODE VB??? Dear lord. There's something like 4 million (or was it 40 million? doubtfull...) VB programmers in america, as opposed to about 400,000 (or was it 40,000) C++ programmers. In any permutation of those distorted figures above, VB is not going to die soon. I even program in VB when I want to create a quick test app for my COM objects. It's point and click, fill-in-the-blank programming. Easy money when you don't care.

I want to get into C# because it's much like C++, Object-Oriented, and basically is a ground-up rip off of Java. Plus, you get one supersexy IDE for all of the languages, and you can comingle the languages with the same application.

I agree with somebody's post in another place... we need a supergeek forum. Probably come in handy when we don't want to bore the yokels.

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If I see one more bloody bracket.....

But anyway, know java already...

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LISP : Lots of Irritating, Shitty Parentheses.

I had a semester of it. I always thought it would be cool if you could take C and add some of LISP's features (string handling, list processing, garbage collection, etc.)

So when I discovered Perl I almost shat my pants.

Almost all of my stuff is done in Perl now, except when I need it to go *really* fast (I use C++ or x86 assembly for that).

Larry Wall deserves much oral sex.

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You're all wrong. FORTRAN is where all the action is.

Just kidding... I had to program in a Fortran-based scripting language that was older than I am for a job once... wasn't especially fun. Oh yeah, and the manual was written in Dutch.

Personally, I use C++ for just about everything I program, or JavaScript if I want to do something simple that anyone can run... DHTML is great for really basic programming stuff, especially involving form input. I'll be learning Scheme, a dialect of LISP, in school next semester, but I'm not especially looking forward to that.

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Yeah, well lisp isn't really very hard to get the hang of. I've got the hang after a couple of hours, but the brackets are just insane. An example : One question asked me to output a list containing the words (left right etc, however many times depending on the integer passed to it. here is the code of my answer:

(define march
(lambda (steps)

(cond ((= steps 1) (list 'left))
((even? steps) (append (march (- steps 1)) '(right)))
(else (append (march (- steps 1)) '(left)))
)
)
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No! Stop the bracketing stupidity! That's only a really simple function but it just looks stupid!

Yeah, university taught me java last year and i 0wn at it, seems a really nice language, and i code a bit in it, but i'm transitioning to c++ for more platform-specific action. Back in the day i did a bit of assembly for atari ST. Great language for curiosity, and making things go as fast as possible, but the rate at which you get stuff done in assembler is just abysmal..

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The only reason that there is still VB programmers is becuase of the nice plugin com object. I made the geek forum suggestion, and I think we should all bug Cr0 so he makes it so. From what I hear Micro$oft doesn't want to put anymore into VB, instead they are going to push there .net and c# shit. I had to take a few Fortran classes, and I hope to god that I never have to do it again. I also took a little Cobal, and that wasn't that bad. My favoret language is and always will be C.

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