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I know a guy who told me that one of his five dogs, a stray he had found not too long ago, contracted cancer. So what did they do? They took him to a vet for a major operation. The grand total? ū,000.

I think I’m going to be sick.

What the hell is wrong with people’s priorities? I mean, there are people that badly need our aid, not just in foreign countries, but behind our own borders! Think about it:

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The US has the most technologically powerful, diverse, advanced, and largest economy in the world, with a per capita GDP of ั,900…a purchasing power of ű.255 trillion…[and] a real growth rate of 4.1\%

Yet, we still have the following:


  1. 12.7\% (17,703,800) of our population below the poverty line;
  2. a 4.2\% (5,576,000) unemployment rate;
  3. a 2\% (2,788,000) illiteracy rate amongst citizens 15 years and up;
  4. 2.1\% (1,300,000) of the 63,179,000 youths in this country are homeless or runaways;
  5. 581,429 cases of AIDS have been reported to the CDC, wherein 84\% (488,300) were males aged 13 or older, 15\% (85,500) were females aged 13 or older, and 1\% (7,629) were children under age 13;
  6. An estimated 650,000 to 900,000 citizens living with HIV…

…and the list goes on and on. So, are we devoting our full attention and resources to quelling the remaining problems? Nope. We seem to find more importance in saving our fucking worthless pets.

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We went to a breeder in the area who raised poodles and Yorkies. She had a lovely little male Yorkie that she wanted 辎 for.

辎??!! For a stupid friggin’ mutt?! For crying out loud, just think about how many starving people you could have fed for that amount. Think about how much penicillin you could have purchased for HUMAN BEINGS dying slowly and miserably from Strep Throat.

Take a look in your local grocery store. They sell “doggie ice cream,” “kittie bottled water,” and a bunch of other bullshit no one really needs.

I’m too ill to continue.

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That is fucked up.

People have the ability to choose thier own destinies. People can get a job. Whether it be McDonalds, pickin up trash, mowing peoples yards. People have no one to blame for their situations but themselves.

I have 4 dogs, and if they want some damn doggie ice cream, then doggie ice cream they get.

I chose to have animals and love and care for them. They are MY responsibility because I chose it.

I WILL NOT PAY FOR SOMEONE ELSES MISTAKES!!!

I would however gladly adopt an abused animal and take care of it.

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I agree with jim for once. If your bought or found the dog, and they are in pain, it is your responibility to take care of them. Granted, I wouldn't spend ū,000 for an operation, but that is because I don't have ū,000 to spend on a myself, let alone a dog.

Also, look at your own statistics whiskey. we have a 4.2\% unemployement rate. WTF are you complaining about!!!!!! That is the lowest I've ever seen it! And it just keeps getting lower! The problems are going to start getting fixed!

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When you go to buy your next car.

Instead of buying a ุ,000 vehicle, buy an ป,000 one that does the same job and give the rest to charity. You will feel a lot better.

Me, I like to spend MY money on ME! I earned it. It wasn't given to me, I was NOT brought up a rich kid, I worked very hard to get to where I am to day. And I like my luxories, and that's that.

If I'm going to help someone, they are going to come mow my lawn, pick the weeds in my flower bed, and wash my cars, and EARN MY HELP!

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Never bought a ุ,000 car. Wouldn't know about that.

By the way Jim, apparently you don't get what I'm saying. Maybe you’re having bad day in the reading comprehension department. To reiterate, I never said, "don't spend your hard earned money on yourself," or "give your entire paycheck to charity."

But I did mention that I think some people have ridiculous priorities - weighing the life of a petty animal over the life of a human.

So go ahead, spend your money on yourself. Splurge it on your family and friends all you want. That’s fine. But don't be a fool and waste your money searching for or saving the life of an animal. No primate, beast, or other animal is worth more than a human. Especially when there are lost, suffering, and dying children/adults all over the globe.

I’m sure you still disagree, Jimbo. I bet you’re thinking about how you don’t owe any human a lick of help, and you’d rather help an innocent animal.

People like you make this world a shitty place.

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So you're saying that because someone else that I probably don't even know decides to have a child - a process that I have zero choice in, I am then somehow bound to help the little shit for the rest of my life, is that it?

Also I fail to see why it is taken so forgranted that all other animals are "sub human". By what criteria are you judging them? You're making a decision based solely on your moral instinct that the lives of these are less valuable than a humans life. As I say, this is purely an instinctive judgement and has no logical weight.

Me, I'll spend my damn money exactly how i want to, and if someone else can't afford food then boo hoo.

You, of course, whisky are free to spend your loot on whatever cause to see fit, but don't think that your choice of wealth distribution is somehow better than everyone elses.

We do not earn things just by being. A human doesn't earn food just by existing. Animals don't, so why should humans?

As I had said, maybe if i had some say in whether people were born or not then i might feel some sense of responsibility towards their welfare - maybe.

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Perhaps you should be examining your concept of the sanctity of life. It's easy to get outraged about apparent lack of priorities, but harder to back up said priorities meaningfully.

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So you're saying that because someone else that I probably don't even know decides to have a child - a process that I have zero choice in, I am then somehow bound to help the little shit for the rest of my life, is that it?

For crying out loud, where and when the hell did I say that?!

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So go ahead, spend your money on yourself. Splurge it on your family and friends all you want. That’s fine. But don't be a fool and waste your money searching for or saving the life of an animal. No primate, beast, or other animal is worth more than a human. Especially when there are lost, suffering, and dying children/adults all over the globe.

That is my opinion. Agree with it or not, that is the extent of my arguement. I never said "help the little shit for the rest of his life," etc etc...

And if you can't see why a human being's life carries more worth than a dog's or a fucking cat's...then I think you're a lost cause. We don't send hostage rescue teams after stolen cows...

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I believe that our morality, as it were, is an instinct, which is reinforced and shaped somewhat by society, but is still merely an instinct that helps human beings work in groups.

Your view that humans are better than cows seems to be based on nothing other than your moral judgement.

Humans therefore are supposedly worth more than cows because ... because they're human, and so are you.

Brilliant. I am converted!

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ok, so you dont spend the money on the dog's operation. you now have 3000 extra dollars, who gets that money? you may give it to someone, and they might have some food for a while, but then they wont have food forever. but say you do spend your money on the dog. youve just saved the dog's life, and some other dumbass has probably already spent their money on the guy you would of spent it on. see, it works out. and besides, i completely agree with jim, if you get somethin, it should be because youve earned it by doing something, not because youve earned it by not doing things.
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