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lykosis 
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sorry for the cut n paste..aka PARROT. but i'd really like to hear some thoughts on this...
High Court Upholds School Drug Tests
Thu Jun 27,10:31 AM ET
By James Vicini
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A divided U.S. Supreme Court ( news - web sites) ruled on Thursday that public middle and high schools can require drug tests for students in extracurricular activities such as choir or band without violating their privacy rights.
The high court by a 5-4 vote upheld a program in Oklahoma that required students who want to take part in after-school activities to submit to random urinalysis.
The tests, required without any suspicion of drug use, covered students in grades 7 to 12 who sign up for such activities as cheerleading, choir, band, the academic team and the Future Farmers of America club.
On the last day of their term, the justices overturned a U.S. appeals court ruling that struck down the policy in the Tecumseh School District in Pottawatomie County for violating constitutional privacy protections against unreasonable searches.
"Because this policy reasonably serves the school district's important interest in detecting and preventing drug use among its students, we hold that it is constitutional," Justice Clarence Thomas ( news - web sites) said for the majority.
A student who refuses to take the test or who tests positive more than twice cannot take part in competition for the rest of the school year. Students are tested at the start of the school year and then randomly throughout the year, with names drawn every month.
RULING COULD BOOST SCHOOL DRUG TESTS
The ruling could boost school drug testing. Over the past three years, about 5 percent of schools nationwide have required drug tests for student athletes while about 2 percent have tested students in other extracurricular activities.
The Supreme Court adopted the position urged by the Bush administration in upholding the drug tests. At arguments, a Bush administration lawyer said a school could even test all of its students without violating their privacy rights.
The Supreme Court last addressed the issue in 1995, when it ruled that public high schools and middle schools may force student athletes to submit to drug tests. The Oklahoma case covered extracurricular activities other than athletics.
In Tecumseh, a rural town about 40 miles (64 km) from Oklahoma City, two students challenged the policy after its adoption in 1998, claiming the school failed to show it had a problem with illegal drugs.
The school board defended the program and its authority to adopt tests to deter and combat drug use.
Of the more than 500 students tested while the program was in effect during part of two school years, only three students, all athletes, tested positive. Two of the athletes also participated in other extracurricular activities.
Justices John Paul Stevens ( news - web sites), Sandra Day O'Connor ( news - web sites), David Souter ( news - web sites) and Ruth Bader Ginsburg ( news - web sites) dissented.
Ginsburg said the program was unreasonable, capricious and even "perverse" because it targets for testing a student population least likely to be at risk for illicit drugs and their damaging effects.
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forumwhore
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Posted on: Jun. 27 2002,18:15 |
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I will be highly amused when half a school's band tests positive and is shut down.... heheheh
I think a lot of kids smoke pot and this whole thing could blow up in the adults' faces... heh again.
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Wolfguard
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Posted on: Jun. 27 2002,18:47 |
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i have never failed a drug test.
i was always able to fill the bottle without getting any on my hands...
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joelthegreat
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Posted on: Jun. 27 2002,20:20 |
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I am so for drug testing!!
I mean with what's going on in the world today I want to make sure that my drugs are clean before I use them!!
 
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demonk
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Posted on: Jun. 27 2002,22:10 |
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Question: What happens if they find a student positive for something like nicotine? It's illegal to smoke if you are under 18, so would they punish the student? This is the biggest problem I've always had with drug test. They aren't enfoced uniformally. Some students get in trouble for using pot, while others (ie, star athletes) get away with real hard stuff like coke or worse. What's going to happen now? "Oh, don't join band if you smoke, they'll get you. Join the track team, they don't really care if you smoke".
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Bozeman
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Posted on: Jun. 28 2002,00:44 |
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What if you have poppy seed bagels for breakfast? Those can create a false positive for all kinds of opiates.
Just pray they don't institute hair testing. If you EVER did dugs since the last time you had your hair cut it can show up. If hair testing is implemented, I'm guessing the bald look will be "in" very soon for the youth of America.
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forumwhore
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Posted on: Jun. 28 2002,01:22 |
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It's just plain fascist!!
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Beldurin
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Posted on: Jun. 28 2002,02:26 |
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personally, I'm all for it. IMHO, student atheletes especially should be required.
How exactly does it violate their rights? It's ILLEGAL. Those of you getting all holier than thou and offended about this are the same ones who were so vehemently outraged about the catholic priests molesting children. What if they did it in the privacy of thier homes or churches? Isn't investigating these crimes an invasion of their privacy?
Be consistent people. Drugs are illegal, I think all school-aged kids should be subject to random urinalysis, not just atheletes and those in extra-curricular activites.
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Nikita
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| Quote (Bozeman @ 27 June 2002,19:44) | What if you have poppy seed bagels for breakfast? Those can create a false positive for all kinds of opiates.
"Did you shave your head to avoid the drug test, young man?"
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Aw damnit, I love the poppy seed laden everything bagel ... with spicy red pepper cream cheese!
Hm, don't know if I'll look good with the G.I. Jane 'do.
Nah.
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CatKnight
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Posted on: Jun. 28 2002,03:07 |
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is the drug test federally enforced, or is it just the employer's practice? if so, they have every right to require a drug test.
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