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PostIcon Posted on: Oct. 14 2001,03:45  Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE
i mean, really. i was looking through a CompUSA ad in the paper this morning, and found this:
PowerMac
G4 processor @ 733 MHz.
128 megs of ram
40 gig HD
ehternet card
Geforce 2mx
cd-rw drive
assorted software
NO MONITOR
cost: 񘓣.97

and then....
some brand name HP system
athlon processor @ 1.3 GHz
128 megs of ram
40 gig hd
cd-rw drive
monitor (15")
printer
speakers
windows xp
assorted software
cost: 999.91

someone elaborate on WHY IN THE BLUE HELL id want to pick that crappy mac with no monitor, over the HP.

just spec/cost wise... id go with the HP. even though its a HP, its a decent computer. just reformat the HD and flash the bios, and your set. heh

seriously though. mac owners are nuts.

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kidna wondered why they charge so much. their hardware gives me a boner and all that but their os. it's just so gross

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That's like saying SGI's suck since they have a low processor speed in MHZ, and they're not worth money for what they do.

(I'm not pro-mac, or pro-win, or linux. Depends on what needs to be done.)

PLEASE don't start a mac/win/*nix debate. *sigh*

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PostIcon Posted on: Oct. 14 2001,10:26 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE
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Originally posted by aletros:
PLEASE don't start a mac/win/*nix debate. *sigh*

Saying something like that on a forum like this is tantamount to waving a red flag in front of a bull.

Rhydant - you do have to consider what kind of video card was in the HP. It may have been some 4MB onboard piece of shit. Then again, Apple might just enjoy anally raping its loyal customers.
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PostIcon Posted on: Oct. 14 2001,11:46 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE
Mac should have been trying to inform people the same way that AMD is now trying to inform people. MEGAHERTZ IS NOT THE DECIDING FACTOR OF A PROCESSOR'S POWER! Most people are ignorant about computers. So if they see an Intel PIV 1.7 Gigahertz for 赨 and an AMD Tbird 1.4 Gigahertz for 贝, they are going to think that the PIV is faster. Where, in reality, the Tbird kicks it's ass all over the place.

This is the reason why AMD is now doing the PR system with their new Athlon XP's. They label them as to what their PIV equivalent is (very conservatively, though). So an Athlon XP 1700+ is really like 1.5 Gigahertz (or something... I'm not sure on the actual speed of the chip).

Oops - back to the Mac.
I'm not a very big fan of them, but they are powerful graphics machines. Their processors do more work per cycle than most PC's, so they have a low MHZ rating, but they can crunch numbers like nobody's business. And if you think 񘓤 is expensive for a Mac, HAH!

Power Mac G4 - ū,499.00
Dual 800MHz PowerPC G4
256K L2 & 2MB L3 per processor
256MB SDRAM memory
80GB Ultra ATA drive
SuperDrive
NVIDIA GeForce2 MX w/TwinView
Gigabit Ethernet
56K internal modem

Imagine two of those Apple 22" LCD displays on the TwinView card.

Another thing about Macs is, when have you ever seen cases that beautiful (I'm talking about the newer Macs - G4, cube)?

Ah! One more thing. Compare apples to apples. If you're talking an HP system (a cheap system - some cheesy components), you should really be comparing to an iMac or something.

This message has been edited by miNus on October 15, 2001 at 06:56 AM

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Macs aren't as widely produced as win distro computers. Also 733*4 (i believe their processor speeds are 4x standard windows speeds) is 2932 mhz

i may be mistaken.

oh, and every HP has an integrated video card at 4MB so yes... the video card sucks.

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Just.... don't talk.

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edit: Yes, you are very mistaken. About everything and anything.

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Why are mac's expensive? Because they can be. Nobody's gonna buy a mac other then mac fans, and mac fans are gonna buy it no matter how much it costs. it's the only way apple's made money in the last 15 years.

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PostIcon Posted on: Oct. 14 2001,19:19 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE
powerful graphic machines, eh?

so THATS why i always see graphic creators using photoshop on macs instead of PCs. well damn.

thanks for the insight guys.

but im sticking with my PC.

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Mac-haters aside, macs are the machine of choice for graphic designers. That's the way it is.

And nobody mention SGI ok?

Walk yourself round any design studio and you'll know what I mean though. Macs are used everywhere for that kinda shit. They all use Quark, see

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