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I downloaded MySQL and got the appropriate DBI modules for Perl...

All I can say is... holy shit. I feel like I have all the power of the Gods at my fingertips... with SQL's insane storage and retrieval capabilities, and Perl's mad data-crunching skillz, I think I'm just about ready to take over the world.

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Not to start the debate, but MSSQL server running behind a .NET framework really owns. Takes about 2 lines of code to pull a major dataset from it, that is based on XML, interchangeable between platforms, and is disconnected from any datasource. I mean that literally. If you think you have power now, you've seen nothing until you've seen .NET.
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I'm looking forward to the open source .NET clone. MS sometimes has cool ideas, but their software usually sucks balls. For example, I like ASP, but I *despise* IIS. The solution is to run Apache with mod_perl and Apache::ASP.

Windows has a pretty kickass user interface, but the OS part sucks balls... man, I wish I could run explorer.exe as my X Window manager

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Just read today that Ximian is developing Project Mono to let Linux systems compile and run .NET stuff.

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if .NET delivers on its promise, it should be damn cool. Especially if I have a choice of vendors, anywhere from open-source to genuine MS software. My computing setups are almost always hybrids - at work, all my users run Win2K as there desktop OS. Almost all my servers run Linux, except for a couple WinNT machines - a PDC, a BDC, and a WINS server. This has shown itself to be a throughly *sweet* setup time and time again.

Domain Controllers, whether WinNT or Samba, are machines that admins need to toy with a lot no matter how stable they are. You still need to be able to add and modify user accounts, reset passwords, check the logs, etc. You can do this in Linux, but it's a LOT easier in Windows - which means I can delegate a lot of routine admin-type stuff to the two guys in my department who are pretty good with PCs but don't know Unix and don't have the time to learn it.

At the same time, Web servers, backup systems, and dedicated file servers should be black boxes that do their thing without requiring any user intervention. This is what Linux is really good at. So those systems run Linux. Thank God for Samba.

The point is, I don't care WHO designs what. I use what I think is the best software for the task, and therefore I need software from one vendor to be interoperable with software from a different vendor.

That's why I love Perl - well-written Perl code will execute without requiring any modifications whether you're running Windows, Unix, or Mac OS. That's what I'm hoping open-source .NET will do, too.

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I'm personally a big fan of PHP rather than perl. You can do most of the same things (web page-wise), but embed it within the HTML. I only use perl for operations which don't require any sort of display (which has been a while).

MySQL is powerful and it rocks, and MSSQL has a fairly nice UI (for some tasks). I've found that MySQL running on Apache with PhpMyAdmin installed is easier for the most basic database maintenance stuff. I've never needed to make a database that would actually NEED some of the crap that MSSQL has and I don't feel like paying the overhead to run it if I don't need it.

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You can...embed it [PHP] within the HTML.

You can do the same thing with Perl. You just need to install mod_perl and Apache::ASP for Apache, or use the ActiveState Perl distro for Windows. With ASP you get the same sort of access to the Web server that PHP gives you. PHP is a decent language, but it's not as powerful as Perl

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PostIcon Posted on: Sep. 23 2001,19:36 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE
i agree, but for most things php works wonderfully. it has a great set of built in mysql functions as well, that work fine for non-crunching functions, such as data retrieval and updating on a per-run basis (forums and such).
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How hard is it to get PHP installed? Is there a version for IIS?

Just wondering. The hardest part of getting Apache::ASP working is building mod_perl. With IIS, you just install ActiveState Perl and the installer will put in the appropriate hooks for you.

On the flip side, a lot of ISPs support PHP, but few if any have Apache::ASP running on their servers. If you want to use it you have to run your own server

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it is incredibly easy to install php and mysql (with apache) on a unix based machine. php is fairly easy to install on winblows, but i've never tried it with IIS, only with the win32 binary of apache for development purposes. i've heard that it's not that hard however, and the readme takes you through all the steps.
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