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ok, first english paper of the semester, and my mind goes blank for topics (damn government tests...) anyway, the topic is societal hipocracies and i can't think of any that can be classified as 'societal' can anyone out there think of a good topic i can rant a few pages on?
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does it have to be a current social hypocracy? if it doesn't then one is that during the english colonization of America, the people back then founded freedom for white people on the slavery of black. and no, i am not black or a equal rights advocate.

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sorry, should be "nor an equal....."

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I know I'm going to get flamed for this, but I'll say it anyway because I believe it is true.

You may want to focus on the equal rights gender issue. As any member of the US Military or law enforcement will tell you, women have struggled a long time to earn the right to serve and fight alongside the men.

The problem is that when they are granted equality, it is not carried out. Women are treated equally on paper (and mentally), but are allowed to meet far lower physical standards than the men. The problem arises on the front line.

I'm pretty sure others on this BB are Marines, and can support the argument that a women on a front line defense is a weak link. If that woman is seen, she will ultimately be targeted because of the physical strength gap. If she is taken out, her element may fold, and the whole operation is jeopardized. The same goes for cops. Women officers are far more likely to be attacked, and are also far more likely to use deadly force in a non-lethal situation, due to their need to make up for a strength difference. (I'll try to find the official stats)

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...Also, men in those situations take greater risks than they would have, trying to show off.
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how're these for you:

that people fight racism with racism (affirmative action)

christians/conservatives support the death penalty and are against abortion (mentioned on the forum a few days ago, i believe)

or the fact that tobacco and alcohol are legal, while pot is not (yet has been proven no more harmful than these two 'legal' drugs)

or that it seems to be universally accepted (by guys and girls) that lesbian sex is cool, but sex between 2 guys is nasty (of course, i'd prolly have to actually be a girl to not think its nasty to watch)

or how about the way popular culture encourages people to be hypocrites by following fasion and trends rather than following their own ideas (ie - i want to do this, but if i do people will/might hate me for being different, so i'll do the opposite)

er...i'm not sure how well these fit into your classification. they're sort of cliche anyway, but hopefully they'll get you thinking...

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I don't agree, most girls I know think lesbian sex isn't cool, but wouldn't mind seeing two guys go at it. I think it's a double-double standard.
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wow, there are some really nice topics on this thread already, thanks for all the ideas! right now, i'm leaning towards either the equal rights gender one, or the pop culture "be who you want to be as long as its who we want you to be" thing. thanks again for the ideas and if you think of more, don't hesitate to post them!

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PostIcon Posted on: Sep. 19 2000,13:38 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

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that people fight racism with racism (affirmative action)
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I'm not even going to start with that one.
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christians/conservatives support the death penalty and are against abortion (mentioned on the forum a few days ago, i believe)
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I guess you could say that a person deserving of the death penalty has put themselves in the situation through free will, where as an unborn has done nothing wrong or deserving. But then you get into the question of "is a fetus alive?" - and I dont want to get into that at all. It would go nowhere.

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or the fact that tobacco and alcohol are legal, while pot is not (yet has been proven no more harmful than these two 'legal' drugs)
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Actually, though seemingly unaddictve, pot is quite addictive. No it does not have withdrawl symptoms like nicotine or alcohol, but that means nothing. And the "yet to be proven" line - well that depends what you are reading. And I'd like to see what you read that stated that. or was it just something you heard?
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or that it seems to be universally accepted (by guys and girls) that lesbian sex is cool, but sex between 2 guys is nasty (of course, i'd prolly have to actually be a girl to not think its nasty to watch)
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Bozeman covered that one.

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or how about the way popular culture encourages people to be hypocrites by following fasion and trends rather than following their own ideas (ie - i want to do this, but if i do people will/might hate me for being different, so i'll do the opposite)
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Exactly what the fuck do you think popular culture is? Pop culture is marketing - plain and simple.

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If millions of people buy into it (which sadly is the case), you can't dismiss his concept of "pop culture" as "just marketing".

Also, that pot lacks withdrawl symptoms means more than "nothing". Withdrawl symptoms are the byproducts of a chemical dependency, which is what makes cigarettes (to wit, the nicotine in cigarettes) extremely hard to quit (second only to heroin I believe). Chemical dependency can be far more dangerous than psychological dependency. I think all substances should be legal, and it's ridiculous that when put up against alcohol and tobacco, marijuana is not.

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