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Ok, I had an epiphany alittle bit ago, with the passing of napster (even with the temporary shutdown of napster), everyone and their brother is coming out of the woodwork with their second favorite way of getting mp3s. Now i don't know if i've just been out of the loop for a while (wouldn't be the first time) but i've just been using napster and recently gnutella, now i know of atleast 5 other ways to get mp3s, there are links here, at slashdot, and even on collegeclub.com. Now that more people know about these different resources i've got the feeling that trying to shut down napster was an even bigger mistake than i had figured.
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i dont think you realize the point behind shutting down napster. they all realize this isnt going to stop mp3 trading, that much is obvious. what it does set though is a legal precedent, which means anyone caught doing it can get in trouble, and they can use the case's outcome to back up what theyre doing.
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...a precident witch was ALREADY set by a magnivox case (see the other Napster thread for details)...

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Except that they can only go after a couple of the mp3 sources i've run across, some of the others, they can't touch, legal precident or not.
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PostIcon Posted on: Aug. 01 2000,19:18 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

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Except that they can only go after a couple of the mp3 sources i've run across, some of the others, they can't touch, legal precident or not.

what? why couldnt they 'touch' them? shit im hearing that if napster loses the case that it will effect EVERYONE who has anything related to file (specificly but not limited to MP3's) sharing. Ive read that if the shit for napster goes downhill that even rotten fudge-packing companies like AOL will have to make some changes in order to not have the same problems that napster is currently facing.

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look, theres about 3 kinds of mp3 trading. download and upload from a server, i.e. using a search engine to find web pages, and then download from the server. then theres peer to peer through a server, like napster. and then theres plain peer to peer, like gnutella. plain peer to peer is very hard to stop. you have to do lots of protocol checking shit at the isp level. besides, gnutella and such cant even be sued, theres no real company, more like a program floatin around on the net
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Yeah, so unless they plan on sueing everyone they suspect of downloading gnutella, they can't touch it, unless they make gnutella ilegal to use. But then it's open source so with a few changes, it's now a new legal program.
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they can make mp3 sharing itself illegal. just like shooting someone with a gun is illegal, not shooting people with certain model guns. but thats not even the point, the point is its just nearly impossible to stop the downloading of mp3s themselves.
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They can make mp3 transfering illegal, but i can always zip it, or rar it or arj it and then it's not an mp3 transfer, the only way to really stop it is to make file transfer itself ilegal and i don't see that happening
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they can make mp3s themselves illegal (its what i mean, i guss you didnt catch it) they can say having mp3s on your comp is illegal. i dont think it will come to that, but they can do it, the same way having pot is illegal. trust me, they can make it illegal in some way shape or form for you to obtain mp3s.
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