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...and we will build a city with towers that reach to the sky. We will draw all people together, and unify the world under one government and for one purpose. The time has come for us to recognize that the world is changing. It is no longer enough to just revise our old culture; we must build a new society from the ground up, based on the right foundation: science, and the scientific world view. Humankind is poised on the brink of an understanding of the world and of the universe deeper than ever before. Soon we will know in its entirety how the universe came into being, and what laws have guided it up until this day. Soon there will be nothing beyond the reach of our technology.

Human beings are the peak of evolution. We are the mind and the voice of this planet. For a long time we have been divided, but soon the path of progress will bring us together again. Once we are united, there is nothing that we cannot do. Once we are united, death and suffering will become a thing of the past. We will abolish pain, and instead every moment of our lives will be one of unimaginable pleasure. Through medical science and genetics, we will remake the human race, rid ourselves of our imperfections.

We are alone on this planet; we are the only ones with consciousness, the only ones with power to act. If we are going to be saved from our past, we are the ones who must act. We must forget the old superstitions of the past. We must escape from the old and restricting notions of absolute right and wrong. We must hunt down and sweep away the old cobwebs that the light of science has not yet swept away. WE can do this. WE have the power to change this world. WE have the strength, when we are united, to do anything, to reach to the farthest corners of this world and beyond into space, to spread ourselves so far and develop our technology to such a strength that nothing, no natural disaster, no environmental catastrophe, will ever threaten our species.

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Have a nice time trying to do all that.
I'll be damned amazed if you can take down the american system among all of the rest of the systems and then convince the people we need a new one, build it, AND be successful.

Hey you're not gonna mutagenically fuse all humans together are you?

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...and we will build a city with towers that reach to the sky.


Not a good idea to start your manifesto with an allegory to the Tower of Babel.

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Soon we will know in its entirety how the universe came into being

"Soon," he says.

Take a look around the galaxy. We know nothing.

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Human beings are the peak of evolution.

What makes you so sure the peak won't be 500 years from now?

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Once we are united, death and suffering will become a thing of the past.

End suffering? Conceivable. End death? Uhhm...okay.

(BTW, if you have any of that acid left, I'll buy some.)

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Through medical science and genetics, we will remake the human race, rid ourselves of our imperfections.

Step 1: Kill all the Jews.

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Not a good idea to start your manifesto with an allegory to the Tower of Babel.

Yes indeed, the Tower of Babel: an excellent example of the sort of stupid superstition that I’m talking about. I mean, even if science hadn’t just about proved that god doesn’t really exist, who would want to believe in that sort of god? A god who tells a man to go sacrifice his son just to test his faith. A god who condemns the whole human race and casts them out of Paradise on account of one person. And a god who decides to scatter mankind and make them unable to live together in piece just because they want to make a name for themselves and build a kingdom of their own. I mean, seriously...

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Take a look around the galaxy. We know nothing.

speak for yourself. you know nothing. we know quite a fuck load about the universe.

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What makes you so sure the peak won't be 500 years from now?

or 100 years ago? due to medicine, the evolution of humans has slowed/stopped, except for very rare instances.

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End suffering? Conceivable. End death? Uhhm...okay.

cryogenics.

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Step 1: Kill all the Jews.

you motherfucking piece of shit. you are a cocksucking pathetic little nothing. don't post shit here anymore. ever.

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tell you what kiddo. go get an island. start your little country with your big time dreams. find your utopia.

and remember that hundreds of years ago people in europe thought that the 'new world' was gonna be that utopia.

it doesn't exist. nowhere, not ever. you can dream all you want about a society where greed, suffering and death won't exist, but remember that you're dreaming. those things are not REAL.

you'll start your little island nation, and some big superpower country will show up to take it over... and then what?

shit, not even the buddhist monks in tibet could be left alone by the government of china. they finally had to flee or be killed.

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...who would want to believe in that sort of god? A god who tells a man to go sacrifice his son just to test his faith.

Yes, and also the God who provided a Lamb for the sacrifice.

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A god who condemns the whole human race and casts them out of Paradise on account of one person.

And also a God who, on account of one man, forgave the sins of the whole world.

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And a god who decides to scatter mankind and make them unable to live together in piece just because they want to make a name for themselves and build a kingdom of their own.

And also a God who, not so that mankind would make a name or a kingdom for themselves, but for the sake of His name and His kingdom, allows those boundaries of language to be crossed:

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When they heard this sound, a crowd came together in bewilderment, because each one heard them speaking in his own language. Utterly amazed, they asked: "Are not all these men who are speaking Galileans? Then how is it that each of us hears them in his own native language? Parthians, Medes and Elamites; residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya near Cyrene; visitors from Rome (both Jews and converts to Judaism); Cretans and Arabs--we hear them declaring the wonders of God in our own tongues!"
-Acts 2:6-11

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human evolution slowed/stopped? evolution is a slow process. you dont notice it. you cant judge its speed. but i agree with you about the anti jew comment...except i think he was being sarcastic.
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speak for yourself. you know nothing. we know quite a fuck load about the universe.

If by "we" you mean "humans on planet Earth", then your conception of "quite a fuck load" must be similar to my conception of "absolutely nothing". I'm not joking here. We don't know shit about very much of anything, forget about the nature of reality (the 'universe').

I should add that it's not possible for our soft, human brains to come close to comprehending anything remotely like the nature of the universe (although there are a variety of interesting drugs out there that can make you feel like you do). So don't reply to my post with a lengthy physics dissertation about string theory or wave-particle duality you copied off some website.

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Ooppss bad idea Phaedrus, save posts like this for when you have over 200 posts and you wont get flamed as much.


As for the bible stuff. You think of all the places on the whole planet there is for fighting and war, the one place where shit is happening recently is close to where Jesus was (supposedly) born....

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