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Wolfguard 
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Posted on: Feb. 15 2002,16:56 |
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Why is cloning being looked at as this great evil that must be stamped out?
With this tech you could grow your own body parts. This means NO REJECTION from a transplant. No waiting for someone to die that may be "close enough"
You could grow a full body and once they figure out how to reattach the spinal cord, or just move info from one brain to the next, you could just grow the clone and move in when its ready.
Im not seeing a down side here.
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BlackFlag
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Posted on: Feb. 15 2002,16:59 |
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they can already do brain transplants on monkeys, right? only a matter of time before they can do so on humans. will probably only be 10-20 years before superman gets his spinal cord fixed and can walk again.
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Del7a
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Posted on: Feb. 15 2002,17:03 |
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There are several downsides to this, but the one I will touch here is of an ethical nature.
If you clone a person, that clone is a person. Just because you call the person a "clone" that does not give anyone the right to kill that person to harvest body parts.
What scares me even worse is that some of the research is being done in Kentucky...hehe...
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Wolfguard
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Posted on: Feb. 15 2002,18:02 |
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The thing that makes the person a person is not in there. If you clone me there is not instantly 2 of me walking around. The thing that you just grew is nothing but an empty shell with nothing in it but parts.
But if this makes you feel better...
You grow the clone with nothing but the brain stem so it keeps it alive. No brain, no person.
or, if you can tranplant information between brains. run a current from the eyes to the base of the brain. This will keep it asleep. you could condition the muscles electricly and when it has grown enough you start the transfer.
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Dark Knight Bob
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Posted on: Feb. 15 2002,18:06 |
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well it would be alive if it had full cognotive thought. growing just the parts is easy people seem to think ou have to grow the whole person first.
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Del7a
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Posted on: Feb. 15 2002,18:10 |
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I'm all for growing parts. Skin, hearts, ect...could all save lives. But, if you clone a person, what do you do with the rest of the parts you don't need?
And what is left out from cloning a person that does not make it a person? How do you know it wouldn't be capable of thought or life? Nobody has ever cloned a person, and so far all "cloned" animals act like regular animals.
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Wolfguard
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Posted on: Feb. 15 2002,18:14 |
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controlled development
You can twist the dna so it does not grow a brain, just the brain stem.
you just need to keep it alive till the parts grow.
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Del7a
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Posted on: Feb. 15 2002,18:21 |
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Still, it would be more economical and cheaper to grow parts. Why grow a whole new body if all you need is a heart? Also, it would be extremely difficult and time consuming to grow a human body to the adult stages. There is a lot of changes that happen to the DNA going from child to pubesent to adult, and as far as I know there is no way to speed that up (please prove me wrong on this--I love to read about advancements in medical technology).
As far as regrowing limbs, why not just implant replicating virul RNA into the cells at the stub? Turn on the right sequences, let the modifed virus replicate, regrow the limb and then turn off the sequences? The DNA still as the information on how to grow an arm, so let's just give it a little kick-start.
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Dark Knight Bob
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Posted on: Feb. 15 2002,18:28 |
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its true. discovered form the adaptly named frankenstein cancer (it would randomly grow body parts from teeth to hair to skin) we are born with a set number of special cells that create growth of EVERYTHING from bone to brain. these are used up after the first few weeks of conception. now scientists are on the verge of re introducing them into parts of the human body to stimulate growth of anythign they want. even a few more inches on your manhood 
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Posted on: Feb. 15 2002,18:32 |
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stem cells, stem cells, stem cells!
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