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Why most people believe that there is something after death? I mean some use this as an argument against suicide : "Man you don't know what's on the other side, it might be worst than what you have now."

What if there was _absolutely_ nothing once your brain is dead? What will happen to those who believed firmly that there was some kind of after-life?

"I WANT TO SPEAK TO THE MANAGER! Everybody told me that there was an after-life, and there's nothing! I want refund!"

Do humans have the need to believe in an after-life to make them better? Do we created ourself an after-life because our race is pretencious and think that it would be an horrible waste if there wasn't something after death??

Sorry for the meta-physic questions tonight, but that's what is running in my mind right now...

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obviously so they can easily deny (if there really is nothing after death) the fact that their lives are insignificant and pathetic to a very big extent.
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Hm... to me the concept of an afterlife isn't really a punishment or a reward. It's almost like that of the Ancient Greeks, except I don't think that only the warriors get to go to Elysium and that the rest of the shades walk around with eternal wailing.
In my system of beliefs no-one really agrees on what the afterlife is like... it could even be a sort of eternal sleep.

I don't think that the afterlife is somehow a preventative of suicide, IMO at least. I mean, to me it's sort of separated from me killing myself or not. Granted, there are people who won't commit suicide only because they think their god would be pissed off at them, but who knows if that's true?
So, yeah. I guess I believe in the afterlife, although sometimes I would much rather welcome the thought of death being final. I can see the argument either way, really. From one POV, you'd get to see your relatives and everyone again, from another, a complete death would just end everything nicely.
Maybe what happens to you is that which you believe to be true?

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I know what awaits me at the end and im not happy about it at all.

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PostIcon Posted on: Mar. 05 2001,13:35 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

I think you really have to indentify where the "mind" or conscienceness really resides. If the mind is the energy passing through our brains, when the body stop, although that energy may disapate it will still exist. It may be possible for that energy to carry our conscienceness with it.

I almost forgot. Blanalex, you make it sound as though you KNOW the answer. If you believe that you do aren't you assuming just as much as those that believe there is an afterlife?

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Personally, I don't think that it's pretention at all. Religion/spirituality aside, I know that there is a part of me that is not physical, that has thoughts, feelings, ideas, and knowledge. While these things might be "stored" physically, they are not in themselves physical. Add to that my personality, and you have what has been termed a "soul". Or, if you have too many issues with that word, then you can call it my "spirit".

Now, if we just assume that a human is simply an organic structure that lives and then dies, we must assume that all memory, thoughts, and feelings cease. I, personally, have a very hard time with that, and I'd bet that most of the population of Earth share my feelings on this. Therefore, I like to believe that while my body may die and rot and become plant food, my "spirit" will remain in some form. This feeling is not pretention--it is grasping at a hope that all of this staggering about in this bag of bones is not all there is to Life.

Furthermore, I find no fault in this belief, since it gives me (and those around me) an incentive to act in a good an honorable fashion, as well as a goal (of sorts) to work towards. And what if I'm wrong? Well, so what? I am well aware that I may be deluding myself with my beliefs, but it's a healthy delusion--it keeps me sane in an insane world.

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PostIcon Posted on: Mar. 05 2001,18:37 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

I just realized that all this talk about the afterlife and all that is taking place in a topic numbered 666.

Heheh.

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Blanalex, you make it sound as though you KNOW the answer.

You have a good point there. I don't know, AFAIK i've never been there yet. But my personnal belief is there's no after-life or something along the lines of a eternal sleep, without the dreams.

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PostIcon Posted on: Mar. 05 2001,19:12 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

well its been shown that patients have some form of conscious awarness of their surroundings even thoughtthey are brain dead in that they have outer body experiences when there is zero brain activity so mabye that suggests that the soul is something that exists.

also its been proven in pyscological tests that you're consciousness has virtually no control over any of your actions rather its just a resultant of what you most powerful sub-concious thoughts are so it might be considered that we are just here to observe what life is in some forom of conscious experience and we have to learn what lifes all about but the whole things gods way of taking the piss cos no one can really prove anything which in its own way i think is kinda cool cos theres always something for you to think about then

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Well all I know is this creature I'm inhabiting is supa-l337
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