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Aero 
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Posted on: Apr. 13 2001,21:32 |
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Evolution? Does anyone here actually believe in this? I've spent many long hours pondering and considering all the facts, and I can find no conclusive evidence or proof regarding this theory. I've come to realise that, like Christianity, evolution is a faith. However, Christianity has more backing it up than evolution. Every "missing link" that has ever been found has been indentified as a fraud or hoax within 100 years. As for "Neanderthals", many of my Irish relatives have similar bone structures.
I believe in evolution to a degree-ie: extra hair, slightly changed body structure, better nocturnal vision, since I've seen these "in action". I just can't accept a bacterium changing into a poodle-it make no sense whatsoever! As for the "primordial soup" and "big bang" theories, where did the raw materials come from?
I have a very mathmatical and logical mind, and the chances/odds for the occurance of evolution are staggering. Anyways, I just don't get this!
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Aero
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Posted on: Apr. 13 2001,22:22 |
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But they are Still dogs! I'm an advanced dog breeder, and I've been breeding dogs half my life, and if you put 100 different varieties/breeds of dogs into a pen with permanent food and water and leave them for 20 years, when you come back, all the dogs will look pretty much the same. Can anyone here give some CONCLUSIVE proof on evolution that's over 100 years old? I'll say it again-Where did the universe and all the raw materials come from? I'm a firm beliver in de-evolution, since I see it Every day!
I heard some scientists at Oxford figured out that the odds of "evolution" occuring were a 9 followed by 56 zeros. I don't even think Einstein could "get" that one. I don't know about you, but I certainly wouldn't bet on those odds!
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CatKnight
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Posted on: Apr. 13 2001,22:24 |
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Aero you are forgetting one very important thing, and is that Creationism is based on the axiom that Humans were Created, by God, and that we have always been this way. All other creationism theories are based on this axiom. The problem is, unlike with geometery, a man made logical creation, you can't create "Reality Axioms" as I call them. Thus Creationism is not science, and should not be treated as such. Evolution is based on science, which includes the scientific method of observation, hypothessis, experimentation, and corroboration/falsification. Just because there are missing links, does not mean the entire theory of evolution should be thrown out.And for askheaves-the reason for this is that I believe (my hypothesis) is that human evolution ceased with modern medicine. The phrase "Survival of the Fittest" has been ecentially changed to "survival of the Richest".
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CatKnight
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Posted on: Apr. 13 2001,22:47 |
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For something to be science, you can't just assume an initial (unproven) proposition to be true, and then build everything else from there. Now there may be an actual legitimate creation science, where people go out and try to find evidence that humans have not been evolving, nor ever have. I figure they will be out of buisness in 10-50 years, or as soon as they accept the fact that evidence has already been found that defeats their cause.
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