Any recommendations? I want a .40 cal or 9mm, semi-auto, single action, and it must look cool

all the movie stars use them.. you should too!

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This message has been edited by masher on January 02, 2001 at 04:12 AM

The SAS use Glocks and HK MP-5S for CQB and that british bullpup rifle for everything else.(cant remember the name at this time)

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The .40SW is a nice calibre. Glock makes a nice compact carry in this calibre. It's the 23C (for compact). My mate had one and it's nice and comfortable to carry. Easy to maintain.
Another thing to consider is the design of the weapon and how you intend to carry it. Make sure you get a weapon with no snags on it, the Glocks, for example have a no snag foresight and a low profile rear sight. You don't want you pistol snagging a woollen sweater when you need it most.
You CAN get a firearm for under 蹢. Look for second hands. Most handguns are rated for approx. 100,000 rounds before you need to replace major parts.

However, if you will only use it for home defense, get a pump action 'riot' shotgun or the 'coachgun'. It's a side by side double 12 bore. It's cut down to minimum legal lenght and is about 跌 last I heard. It's based on the old shotguns used by the guy that rode 'shotgun' on the old western stagecoaches. Put some buckshot through a door with that and you're bound to hit someone. If you get a pistol for home use, remember to get some safety slugs so they don't go through the walls and hit someone innocent.

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Originally posted by WillyPete:
However, if you will only use it for home defense, get a pump action 'riot' shotgun or the 'coachgun'. It's a side by side double 12 bore. It's cut down to minimum legal lenght and is about 跌 last I heard. It's based on the old shotguns used by the guy that rode 'shotgun' on the old western stagecoaches. Put some buckshot through a door with that and you're bound to hit someone. If you get a pistol for home use, remember to get some safety slugs so they don't go through the walls and hit someone innocent.

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DUH! I forgot about the old stand by for home defense. Yes, the 12gage is the best for home defense. Hell if you light that thing off in a closed space even if you miss the guy he is not going to stand around and wait for another round.

The safety slugs for the pistol are great for another reason. they make a major mess of the guy you hit with them. The ones i have seen where the #12 shot in liquid teflon. They cant go through a wall and get your kid but when you drop one in a bad guy that #12 shot spreads out all over the place.

Remember kids, shoot them IN the house. If you shoot them outside drag them into the doorway so it looks like they where going in when you shot them.
When you do shoot someone aim for the middle of the biggest part you can see (center mass) and keep pulling the trigger till you have have to reload. You dont shoot till he goes down you shoot till he stops twitching (from the bullets slamming into his body)

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I didn't notice you'd also mentioned target shooting. For that you'll want a longer barrel, which makes it harder to carry. If you don't qualify for a carry license in your state though, go for a longer barrel. It makes shooting easier. You may want to consider also buying a second hand .22 like the Ruger. (Looks like the old german Lugers with a long, round, heavy barrel) They last for aeons and are really cheap to shoot a lot.
Using a .40 S&W is gonna cost you a lot for ammo if you use it for regular target practice. On the other hand, to be a responsible gun owner, you'll want to put a lot of rounds through it so that you're comfortable with it. To be confident with it, you'll also have to use the same ammo you intend to use for personal protection. ie: If you use Federal Hydrashoks, the ballistics will be totally different from the cheapo practice reloads that most gun shops palm off on you. You'll notice a difference in recoil and the amount of jams you may have, although the only jams I've had were with the cheap ammo, and not with the more expensive hollow points.

If you really intend to get deep into target shooting, you'll also want to check on the future add-on purchases you'll make, such as scopes, replacement barrels, compensators, competition triggers, etc.
The trusty old 1911(?) Colt '45 design seems to have the most variety in that regard.

The reason I wanted to go with the .40 cal is because it's probably the perfect size for home use. They seem to make walls very thin here. I agree with you all on the special loads for indoors.

As for carrying, a little birdie told me that it's extremely easy to get a carry permit in AZ, so I'll probably get one just to have it. I was looking at the Sigs for public use since they seem to have some nice compact versions, so does Colt (the 96G?).

And I'm not concerned about barrel length so much for target shooting. I'm more concerned with becoming skillful with a practical gun. I've really only shot handguns a few times in my life. I'm more a shotgun guy myself.

Dear Santa.... http://www.securityarms.com/20001212/galleryfiles/288.htm

Excellent Sporting Pistol:Kimber Elite. http://www.securityarms.com/20001212/galleryfiles/894.htm

For fans of Aliens: http://www.securityarms.com/20001212/galleryfiles/108.htm

Wolfguard, that British rifle - SA80. http://www.securityarms.com/20001212/galleryfiles/108.htm
Although it is shit and I think the SAS would rather use the M14.

That Ruger I spoke of: http://www.securityarms.com/20001212/galleryfiles/rugermk2.htm

My personal Fave: http://www.securityarms.com/20001212/galleryfiles/558.htm

This message has been edited by WillyPete on January 02, 2001 at 09:06 AM

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