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PostIcon Posted on: Nov. 16 2001,06:16  Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE
Should this have gone in the geek forum?

Anyway, here's what I'm putting together:

  • Antec Deluxe Case w/400Watt power supply
  • Tyan S2460S (Tiger) Motherboard
  • Dual Athlon 1.2GHz MP Processors
  • 512MB DDR RAM
  • 40GB IBM 40GB 7200RPM Sys HD
  • 100GB Wstrn Digi 7200RPM Video/Storage HD
    (both HDDs are U/ATA)
  • Plextor 24x CD Burner
  • Iomega Zip 250
  • Sony Floppy
  • ASUS Twin View DVI Dual Head 32MB AGP
  • Canopus DV Storm Card (Real Time)
  • SoundBlaster Live 5.1
  • 3Com Ethernet
  • Logitech iTouch Wireless Keyboard and Scroll Mouse
  • Monsoon MM-1000 3 Piece Planer Array Near Field Monitors & sub
  • NEC Multisync FE950+ 19” Flat Screen CRT Monitor
  • Sony PVM 1341Q 13" NTSC Production Monitor

    Interestingly, the best price I could put this together for (after scouring the net) is about 񘲴 or so. I know a guy selling it with this:

  • Windows 2k Pro
  • Adobe Premier 6
  • After Effects 5.0 Production Bundle
  • Director 8.5
  • FireWorks4
  • PhotoShop 6
  • Acid 3.0
  • SoundForge 5.0 Studio
  • Canopus Storm Edit Production Suite
  • Xplode Professional
  • Boris Factory
  • Boris Graffitti
  • Cleaner 5
  • Microsoft Office 2000

    ...for Ŭk, configured. So, that sounds a bit tempting seeing how I really want those programs and am too busy to build this thing. Okay, lazy.

    Question is, is the Tiger + Athlon combo worth it? Or would it be better to go with dual PIIIs? I know that's a heated debate waiting to happen, but I'm curious about legit compatibility problems. I'm not very hardware savvy, so I'm a bit ignorant on this one. If anyone has experience that could be of assistance, I'd really appreciate it if you spilled your beans here.

    Thinking about getting a DVD-Rom and swapping out that Asus card for a GeForce3 as well...maybe an Audigy instead of the Live...but then we're reaching "ramen-for-three-months" mode.


    p.s. - if you're wondering why it's so much, keep in mind the cheapest I can find that Canopus card for is about ป-1200.

    p.p.s. - if anyone has experience/knowledge in the dv systems realm, I'd love to hear from you.

    This message has been edited by whiskey@throttle on November 17, 2001 at 02:05 AM

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    Well first of all, I hate you

    Second, I don't really see any huge conflicts of hardware there... there have been known a few things that the 760mp chipset doesn't like too much, like Netgear NICs. What about swapping that Asus card for a Radeon dual head with 32MB of ram? And I personally don't think it's worth going with an Audigy rather than a SBLive, but then again, I don't like creative anyway

    Ok, now to the IMPORTANT PART. If you're going with dual Athlons, DO NOT SKIMP ON THE COOLING! Make sure you go with a good heatsink/fan combo, or else you are setting yourself up for major problems.

    Another suggestion: don't buy MP's right now (I'm assuming you don't want to splurge and buy dual XP MP's?), but instead buy two 1gig durons, or 950mhz durons. Yes, they will work on that board (I've heard of quite a few people doing just that), and that way you can save some money, and use it until you can afford 2 1800+ MP's.

    Anyway... I hate you

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    PostIcon Posted on: Nov. 16 2001,10:57 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE
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    Another suggestion: don't buy MP's right now (I'm assuming you don't want to splurge and buy dual XP MP's?), but instead buy two 1gig durons, or 950mhz durons. Yes, they will work on that board (I've heard of quite a few people doing just that), and that way you can save some money, and use it until you can afford 2 1800+ MP's.

    It seems like he has enough money already...

    Anyway, how much is the CD burner included in that deal? All of a sudden, burners @ 24x's price dropped down to the 贄 range, so maybe you could save a little dough that way.

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    PostIcon Posted on: Nov. 16 2001,11:21 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE
    quote:
    Originally posted by whiskey@throttle:
    Thinking about getting a DVD-Rom and swapping out that Asus card for a GeForce3 as well...maybe an Audigy instead of the Live...but then we're reaching "ramen-for-three-months" mode.

    That's the reason I came up with that idea. Not only would he save money NOW, he would be able to get some really fast processors in the nearish future.

    And plextors are, will be, and always have been 'spensive mofos, but they are really good quality.

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    PostIcon Posted on: Nov. 16 2001,12:03 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE
    We used ata/100 hard drives to capture video and we were still seeing dropped frames. That was a dual 800 with 1 gig ram. Best results we seen are with scsi drives. But, I havn't tried the newer drives of today. But we did see dropped frames with those drives of the first ata/100's. But either way let me know how it works now and I may save some money on the next system and get ata/100's

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    I've been told that TDK's VeloCD burners have Plextor mechanisms. I haven't found any evidence either way.

    edit: Were those ATA100 drives 7200rpm? 7200 vs 5400 rpm makes a big difference when capturing video.

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    PostIcon Posted on: Nov. 16 2001,15:26 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE
    a digital video workstation???

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    Get a mac!

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    PostIcon Posted on: Nov. 16 2001,15:32 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE
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    Originally posted by just_dave:
    We used ata/100 hard drives to capture video and we were still seeing dropped frames. That was a dual 800 with 1 gig ram. Best results we seen are with scsi drives. But, I havn't tried the newer drives of today. But we did see dropped frames with those drives of the first ata/100's. But either way let me know how it works now and I may save some money on the next system and get ata/100's

    Perhaps you should get 2 100GB drives and RAID 0 them? much fastah then...

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    PostIcon Posted on: Nov. 16 2001,15:36 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE
    raid is awesome, however if you're going to be doing a LOT of dv work, keep the raid array separate from your system; i partitioned 60 gb of raid 0 into two parts for system and files and it works just fine and very fast, but for best performance its better to have the os on its own drive and have the array just for storage.
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    PostIcon Posted on: Nov. 16 2001,16:21 Skip to the previous post in this topic.  Ignore posts   QUOTE
    Important question for drive speed requirements:

    Are you going to be using this system for DV/miniDV/DVPro or for capturing analog uncompressed/at low compression ratios?

    For DV, the system will be fine. If you want to capture high data rate analog, it won't even start to cut it. OTOH, if you were interested in editing video at high data rates, you probably wouldn't be looking at 100GB drives...

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